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Thoughts on "Social Justice Warrior" Branding - Kreekakon - 06-08-2015 Hello everyone. I mainly am making this thread because this has been a small issue that has been lingering on my mind for some time now but I hadn't really came out and put it into text form. Doing it now though, so sit back and enjoy! (Hopefully) The main thing I want to talk about today are my thoughts on the phenomenon of "Social Justice Warriors" that has been seemingly dominating the internet for the past year or so. I will spread my thoughts into several sections tidied up in spoiler boxes as not to cluster up the forum page. Still, try to read everything though! Social Justice Warrior Definition Spoiler below!
Justified, or wrongful branding of Social Justice Warriors? Spoiler below!
What is an issue worth worrying about and what isn't? Spoiler below!
Conclusion Spoiler below!
That's basically all I have to say on the matter, would love to see your thoughts below RE: Thoughts on "Social Justice Warrior" Branding - Nice - 06-08-2015 I havent really seen much of that being thrown around at all but that's probably because I generally just dont spend much time on internet places. I don't check reddit, dont check 4chan, dont check imgur, there's barely any forums which I check -and when I do it's not frequent at all. And the thing about being offended and such is a very delicate thing, from my experience the loudest people to throw a gigantic fit that they have been offended by something, usually come off quite the hypocrit by joking about a different issue which is just as serious as the one they suffer from or even worse. Should potentially offensive jokes be "banned"? Hell no but I think every person should have the common decency to stop when someone tells him that the joke is very uncomfortable/offending. Stop, say sorry - didn't know and move on. Refusing to be hurtful to another person does not make you "SJW" it makes you a proper human being. so according to the example above, not being a dick makes you a proper decent person - so I guess in my books someone who is "SJW" is just taking it too far with the intention to cause drama where it is not needed. "Curiosity killed the cat" --- OH MY GOD YOU SICK SON OF A BITCH, MY CAT DIED FIVE MONTHS AGO!!!111 How do you know whether the person is just stretching out the issue for the sake of his own benefit rather than being seriously affected by it? You can't know for sure but in most of the cases it's quite obvious and guess I'll rely on my "reading people" instinct. RE: Thoughts on "Social Justice Warrior" Branding - i3670 - 06-08-2015 RE: Thoughts on "Social Justice Warrior" Branding - Kreekakon - 06-08-2015 (06-08-2015, 06:30 PM)i3670 Wrote: [video] Well of my whole view on it hinges on people actually trying to be decent. If they weren't trying to be genuine in the first place (Either side) then they're not really worth trying to communicate with anyways... RE: Thoughts on "Social Justice Warrior" Branding - Red - 06-08-2015 I've been in this kind of situation actually. I made a little a joke regarding the jews in a way or another - just a bad simile - so of course there was one that got offended. My methods to settle this were: I told it was a joke, no insults intended; then I adviced to consider his way of riposte: although one might get offended, it's better to settle things with a more rational way. Especially In this case, the insults were uneccessary. Now it wasn't only him who was hurt, but it was me; those words were genuine, coming from the bottom of his heart. Last thing was that I told him to learn perceive where the lines of joking and mockery go. It's not a good thing, if one gets deeply insulted from a simple misunderstanding. I do not know did he forgive me - he just stopped posting. But my apology got a lot of thumbs up, so I presume I did the right thing. RE: Thoughts on "Social Justice Warrior" Branding - Mudbill - 06-09-2015 sjws are funneh i laugh now cri me no likey RE: Thoughts on "Social Justice Warrior" Branding - J.R.S.S. - 06-09-2015 This issue confuses me in the way that I don't see how people are "offended". I don't get offended. I don't, and I suppose can't, take anything personally (I suppose that's the way to put it). Example: I've been vegetarian now for eight years and I would very much like to see the eating of animals be done with. At the very least, the unnecessary torture in animal farms that most meat comes from. So lets say one day I'm eating lunch when someone comes over to me and they begin eating a ham sandwich, and then they start talking about the deer they shot the other day. No, I won't get angry and start telling him how "immoral" that is and why it needs to stop. That's his lifestyle and I have no intentions of changing it. Do I agree with it? No. But that doesn't mean I become offended because he is different minded then myself. That outcome would occur in any situation. If someone tells me that I'll fail in everything I'm doing, that's fine. I could care less what others may think and know, or in most cases, think to know. “You are not entitled to your opinion. You are entitled to your informed opinion. No one is entitled to be ignorant.” Basically how I view everything. This is exactly how I would view the example I gave above. As a thinker, feelings hold very little ground for me. There is just no place for such things as being offended. RE: Thoughts on "Social Justice Warrior" Branding - Kreekakon - 06-09-2015 (06-09-2015, 05:53 AM)J.R.S.S. Wrote: This issue confuses me in the way that I don't see how people are "offended". I don't get offended. I don't, and I suppose can't, take anything personally (I suppose that's the way to put it). I think I need to make a clarification on what I truly meant by "being offended". What I mean by being offended takes the shape of a spontaneous feeling that swells up inside you when certain out-world conditions are met. It is much like feeling happy, sad, or angry. Being a spontaneous thing I don't think it can be avoided. When someone is offended they will be offended regardless of whether they like it or not, or if they even agree with their own logical stance on the issue they are offended by or not. HOWEVER beyond that though, after you have been offended it is then up to you whether or not to act on that feeling of being offended. This is where a more logical sense of mind comes into play and you can choose to act in a reasonable fashion even if it may contradict your feelings. So in short what I'm trying to say is that being offended is not something that can be avoided since it is a spontaneous emotion, but one can choose whether or not it is a good idea or not to act on it. RE: Thoughts on "Social Justice Warrior" Branding - VaeVictis - 06-09-2015 I didn't think my kind were welcome here ^^; Having been branded one by a few people here, I'm contented to lurk around the SOMA thread and not venture from there. RE: Thoughts on "Social Justice Warrior" Branding - i3670 - 06-09-2015 (06-09-2015, 10:08 AM)VaeVictis Wrote: I didn't think my kind were welcome here ^^; Having been branded one by a few people here, I'm contented to lurk around the SOMA thread and not venture from there. OOOOH! Your kind!? What are you some kind of higher level internet race? Fucking racist! And you're unaware of what's going on around the rest of the forum. Instead you keep your mind occupied with the development of a game whereas the rest of us toil away in the murky depths of the development support subforum. You entitled piece of shit! You're welcome ^^ Edit: damn so many you're/your typos |