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RE: Mountain hiking - Potato - 08-22-2012
For wolves, just throw the beef jerkey you have on you.
Just do it before they see you.
RE: Mountain hiking - Prelauncher - 08-22-2012
You're going mountain hiking without a knife? That sounds like a bad idea. A knife is one of the most useful, if not the most useful tool to bring when going out in nature.
As for the dangerous animals that you probably won't meet; what's needed to do has already been said in this thread
RE: Mountain hiking - Bridge - 08-22-2012
(08-22-2012, 01:58 AM)MentallyUnstablePie Wrote: Bear.) Quickly put out the fire pit you made.That's the internet for you. Just as much incorrect information as there is correct information. Good to have all that cleared up, but the bolded parts mystify me somewhat. What is the difference? Also, can you vouch for the solid ground theory or is it just a myth?
Wolve.) Act like you're throwing a piece of meat (but don't actually do it, they're stupid and will think you threw it and run away).
Snake.) Pick it up and throw it as far as you can.
FYI: Try not to attempt any of these. If a bear attacks you fake death until it leaves never try to outrun it. For a wolve (view under reply). for a snake you should look at the ground and where you are headed about 15 steps and while walking look around, a snake is easily spotted like this.
(08-22-2012, 12:02 AM)Bridge Wrote: For wolves, I've read that you should avoid direct eye contact, make yourself as tall as possible (with the arms like I mentioned above) and move towards solid ground. I don't know what the significance of solid ground is but I've read that wolves will not follow you if you move onto solid ground like rock (have no idea why). If it's a stray wild wolf then you can use the bluff method described above but wolves that are used to the presence of humans will not be scared and will probably not retreat. They are essentially dogs though which means if you can seriously injure them they will flee. They can leap large distances and are much stronger than normal dogs though so this will probably be difficult. Overall I'd say avoid going off the designated path if there is one and if you see a dangerous animal from afar go in the other direction.
Most of your wolf post is incorrect.
I hunt wolves and never been attacked, they usually run away.
If a wolf makes eye contact with you, make direct eye contact back so it knows you are aware, and ready.
keep your distance, especially if the animal is scavenging or feeding.
Stay calm; stand up straight, be confident.
Don't wave your arms, shout, behave aggressively, tease, or otherwise provoke the animal. Don't stare directly, most animals consider this a challenge. If threatened, calmly turn around and walk away. Never run, it may decide to chase you.
Call the police; a wolf that does not instinctively fear humans is potentially a problem animal.
If you are attacked, try to roll up into a fetal position, protecting your face and hands; don't move until the animal backs off.
If bitten, call 911 right away. Dog (or wolf) bites can be very serious, and are prone to infection.
RE: Mountain hiking - Prelauncher - 08-22-2012
(08-22-2012, 04:06 PM)Bridge Wrote: Good to have all that cleared up, but the bolded parts mystify me somewhat. What is the difference?
It means that you should look at the wolf enough to make it aware that you are aware of its presence and not just stand there and stare at it.
It's the same thing with dogs, never stare into the eyes of a dog you don't know (i.e. when you are a stranger to the dog), it's considered as a challenge to animals.
RE: Mountain hiking - Bridge - 08-22-2012
(08-22-2012, 04:25 PM)Prelauncher Wrote:But he said "make direct eye contact". Should you or should you not look into its eyes to let it know you're aware of it?(08-22-2012, 04:06 PM)Bridge Wrote: Good to have all that cleared up, but the bolded parts mystify me somewhat. What is the difference?
It means that you should look at the wolf enough to make it aware that you are aware of its presence and not just stand there and stare at it.
It's the same thing with dogs, never stare into the eyes of a dog you don't know (i.e. when you are a stranger to the dog), it's considered as a challenge to animals.
RE: Mountain hiking - Ghieri - 08-23-2012
Try going along a well-known path. It's rare to meet animals along those.
That's all I got. I don't do much hiking.
RE: Mountain hiking - MentallyUnstablePie - 08-23-2012
(08-22-2012, 04:57 PM)Bridge Wrote:I never said how long, they know if you are looking or not. If you sit there and just stare at him forever he will think you want to fight, if you make eye contact at first he'll know that you can see him so he doesn't do a pussy move and attack. but the odds of one actually attacking you instead of running is really rare, usually only happens if its where they live. sorry about my idiotic wording, that's where i get my username(08-22-2012, 04:25 PM)Prelauncher Wrote:But he said "make direct eye contact". Should you or should you not look into its eyes to let it know you're aware of it?(08-22-2012, 04:06 PM)Bridge Wrote: Good to have all that cleared up, but the bolded parts mystify me somewhat. What is the difference?
It means that you should look at the wolf enough to make it aware that you are aware of its presence and not just stand there and stare at it.
It's the same thing with dogs, never stare into the eyes of a dog you don't know (i.e. when you are a stranger to the dog), it's considered as a challenge to animals.
something else you could do is bring a gun for self defense.
RE: Mountain hiking - failedALIAS - 08-24-2012
Okay, there seems to be a lot of noobs making stupid dumbshit comments, so I'll have to clear this idiocy up.
1.) Make sure to cover yourself with rotting meat at ALL TIMES! This is crucial, since bears consider themselves very "high-class" and will avoid spoiled food like the plague.
2.) If you messed up that first step, then what you need to do is act like a wounded, weak animal. Twitch, jerk, and snarl. All these things will save your life.
3.) For wolves, you're gonna wear really bright and colorful clothing. Wolves are homophobic; they'll stay the fuck away from you.
4.) If an encounter is inevitable, prepare your surroundings. Pee on yourself; the wolves will get the idea that you own yourself, thus they lose interest. Make hyper, jerking motions. The wolves will see this and reflect on their own animalistic behavior and move on. Finally, you need to lay on your belly in the middle of their circle. I'm not exactly sure what this will do, because no other human being has ever done it.
RE: Mountain hiking - Tommy Gun - 08-24-2012
Look, I've lived around and explored the blue mountains area of Australia (and been to parts of Cali) my whole life, so I can advise you on some stuff. Snakes especially; though the common Brown Snakes in my region can actually be very aggressive just if they feel like it, or if someone else beforehand has given them the shits.
- If you encounter a snake in your way, and it turns to confront you, look to the side of its body (BUT NOT it's head, staring at it directly in the eyes is a sign of aggression, like how cats always stare at each other before fighting) and slowly back away, facing it, for about 5 metres. This is what the guidebooks in Australia reccomend.
- An American mate of mine had the tendency to pick up or poke snakes. Don't be as stupid as him.
- If you have rattlesnakes, don't rely on them rattling for you to find them. They only rattle when they are feeling threatened, so keep an eye out. If you hear it rattling, it means that if you don't back off then it will be compelled to attack.
- On a sidenote: Nearly every month I read of some poor retard who didn't know how to use a pressure bandage and ended near dead. Learn how to apply one, it stems the flow of venom into the bloodstream. Furthermore, have a phone with you at all times - emergency services rarely have no reception. Read this:
http://www.health.qld.gov.au/poisonsinformationcentre/bites_stings/bs_pressure.asp
- If you're walking solo, you must tell a park ranger or friend your route and your intended departure and arrival time. Otherwise, if you go missing no-one will come for you (we saw this in the movie 127 hours, and it's extremely true).
Also, having wild sex attracts bears. All those delcious pheromones and excreted chemicals. You have been warned.
RE: Mountain hiking - spukrian - 08-24-2012
Chronofox, if you're going hiking somewhere I suggest you contact some kind of wildlife organisation in the area. They should know what dangers exist there, how to avoid them and what to do if you encounter them. I would rather trust them than some random people on the internet.