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RE: Time? - Statyk - 10-01-2012 Before continuing, because I'm finding something difficult. May I ask what is the exact "goal" of this discussion? I'm not sure of the viewpoints of the people in the discussion, and I'm not sure what I'm supposed to be responding to and with what. I like a nice intelligent conversation every once in awhile, but I don't see the "purpose" of what I'm trying to discuss. RE: Time? - Froge - 10-01-2012 (10-01-2012, 05:14 AM)Statyk Wrote: Before continuing, because I'm finding something difficult. May I ask what is the exact "goal" of this discussion? I'm not sure of the viewpoints of the people in the discussion, and I'm not sure what I'm supposed to be responding to and with what.What is time? RE: Time? - Statyk - 10-01-2012 We've already discussed that. There is no solid answer, only theories. I have already given my theory, and I feel I would only be constantly repeating myself. I love the conversation, I like seeing Your Computer talk some on the forums, so I know he's breathing. =P I just wish I had a drive to continue more. 'Have any other topics to discuss? RE: Time? - Acies - 10-01-2012 I do not know enough physics to discuss this on a intellectual level. Neither do I know enough philosophy to give an input in that way. I don't really know anything But to break into a new discussion on time; how would humans view the world if we did not have the capability to store memories or the feat to extrapolate/consider the future? Would the concept of time really be necessary if all of your focus was put in "the now/present"? RE: Time? - BAndrew - 10-01-2012 Statyk is right. The discussion isn't getting anywhere. It's nice to discuss such things, but the way we do it will have no result. It would be nicer if we: 3)Stay focused on the topic. This topic is about time and not about (e.g.) how old is your sister. Of course time is connected with other topics like spacetime,space,universe,light,black holes which are very interesting and can be discussed, but we cannot discuss about for example riddles* (which is a mistake I did).1)Provide sources, links and other information about what we claim because saying "I believe that .. X,Y,Z is not valid". I mean OK , of course you can say your opinion, but you must have evidence,proof, information or whatever else you can think of so the others can i)read and learn things they didn't know, ii)judge whether what you say is right or wrong. 2)The text you write must have a logical consistency. This is very important. You can have a different opinion, fine. But you have to explain with logical steps how you reach this conclusion(e.g. The pepper is red -> The apple is red -> The apple is a fruit -> So the pepper is a fruit. Although you reached on something that is not true you tried to explain why pepper is a fruit with logical steps). Also circular logic is not a logical consistency (e.g. I am Zeus I can prove it. I am Zeus and Zeus is a god and a god never lies. Therefore I am Zues because I say I am Zeus). *If you like to solve riddles or talk about problem solving you/we/I can create a different topic about that. *Rules about behaviour, offensive language etc are Forum rules and there is no need to rewrite them. Now I would be happy if you accept these rules and if you want or think that it is important please do recommend other rules. RE: Time? - eatbeavers - 10-03-2012 Time is a concept that you can count moments by a measurement, foolish humans as we are we think this is possible however there are theoretically infinite moments happening at all times if that makes sense. I will refer to the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zeno's_paradoxes when I talk about this because our measurements are flawed. So Time is just a theory. And relevant to how fast light travels as well. RE: Time? - BAndrew - 10-03-2012 (10-03-2012, 08:31 AM)eatbeavers Wrote: Time is a concept that you can count moments by a measurement, foolish humans as we are we think this is possible however there are theoretically infinite moments happening at all times if that makes sense.Yes I know zeno's paradox. There are a couple of solutions. Look at the link you posted : [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zeno's_paradoxes[/url] Quote: Proposed solutions Also a correction in your post. Time is not relevant to the speed of light! The speed of light is constant. It is relevant to the mass of the object (gravity affects spacetime) and the speed of the object (speed affects spacetime). Also mass can change on high speeds. RE: Time? - eatbeavers - 10-03-2012 I was just considering that light going trough glass or water slows down by a minor amount, however of course as you say in the long run light is constantly staying at the same speed. RE: Time? - BAndrew - 10-03-2012 (10-03-2012, 09:44 AM)eatbeavers Wrote: I was just considering that light going trough glass or water slows down by a minor amount, however of course as you say in the long run light is constantly staying at the same speed.I think light is slowed down in transparent media such as air, water and glass, but it's still moving with a slightly smaller but constant speed. RE: Time? - eatbeavers - 10-03-2012 I have not thought about it in that way, thank you for enlightening me |