(11-28-2012, 05:15 PM)Bridge Wrote:

(11-28-2012, 04:55 PM)Googolplex Wrote: I'm interested to know if they have multilingual support. And even, like Penumbra Overture, german voices.

So, is there multilingual support, just the texts or even a full localization?

Mainly I mean german language.

Why would you even want localization in AMFP? Don't mean any disrespect but with all your big talk about immersion I would think you would want to use subtitles. Not to say localization is not a noble pursuit, it just never works out, especially not for an indie game. The only dub I have seen that was on par with the original English version is Puss in Boots, which honestly I think is a milestone in film localization.

EDIT: I'm talking about the Spanish localization of course.

(11-28-2012, 04:51 PM)Googolplex Wrote: As mentioned the graphical design in Amnesia, I'm also trained in 2D art and I have to say that some textures in Amnesia really are bad. I don't mean low resolution, I mean the creation is crappy. Some textures like the bricks of the castle looks like "cloned" each other, there is no contrast, no dirt, no cracks and the textures aren't even tileable.

A texture need more structures, more urgently details, more contrast and more different "objects" on it, looking different each other, so that nothing seems cloned. The most important thing is that textures can set together without you can see the join. To have a better looking surface, a texture also should have different lighting, dark and bright areas.


But OK, Amnesia is a game where story and atmosphere comes first, not the graphics.

I won't say the graphics are bad, but I want to say some textures are poor made.

I already told about the bricks, but also the stone looks like an other one, barrels and wood planks, all looks like the same compared to the others. There is no versatility, whether that would be very important for an atmospheric and realistic world.

(11-28-2012, 04:51 PM)Googolplex Wrote: As mentioned the graphical design in Amnesia, I'm also trained in 2D art and I have to say that some textures in Amnesia really are bad. I don't mean low resolution, I mean the creation is crappy. Some textures like the bricks of the castle looks like "cloned" each other, there is no contrast, no dirt, no cracks and the textures aren't even tileable.
A texture need more structures, more urgently details, more contrast and more different "objects" on it, looking different each other, so that nothing seems cloned. The most important thing is that textures can set together without you can see the join. To have a better looking surface, a texture also should have different lighting, dark and bright areas.

But OK, Amnesia is a game where story and atmosphere comes first, not the graphics.
I won't say the graphics are bad, but I want to say some textures are poor made.
I already told about the bricks, but also the stone looks like an other one, barrels and wood planks, all looks like the same compared to the others. There is no versatility, whether that would be very important for an atmospheric and realistic world.

(11-28-2012, 05:50 PM)Googolplex Wrote: Yeah, I know, most games are really horrible localized. As you said, they have money and this will mean they should support more languages. I don't want to lean english when playing a game! I want to understand the story!!! English do I lean here, but please not in a game. I do not play a game to lean english.
I mean, Penumbra Overture had a publisher, that was "Kalypso Media" or something. In Black Plague it was "Paradox Interactive", but they only did english voices so that I have to read subtitles and I hate that to read subtitles!!! That breaks the immersion for me.
When Overture was in german and even russian, why they couldn't keep that on?

Quote:Hah, the german localization of Overture is even better than the original english!
The voices, the language style, that's more impressively than the original.

And I also don't want to use subtitles, because reading a text during gameplay will pull you off from the game.
And
you can't read a text and look at the environment at same time. So, a
multilingual full support would be very important, when it's made well
like in Penumbra Overture.

(11-28-2012, 05:40 PM)Hirnwirbel Wrote: As for the cloned bricks, the problem is also that if you make them too different, the tiling will be even more obvious. Think about it: You have the same piece of wall placed ten times in a corridor, one behind the other. Now if their bricks were super varied, you'd immediately notice that for example that one unique darker brick repeats itself on every piece of wall.
Make the bricks more uniform and it will look a bit boring but at least the repetitiveness won't catch the viewers eye quite as fast.

(11-28-2012, 06:00 PM)Bridge Wrote:

Quote:Hah, the german localization of Overture is even better than the original english!
The voices, the language style, that's more impressively than the original.

And I also don't want to use subtitles, because reading a text during gameplay will pull you off from the game.
And
you can't read a text and look at the environment at same time. So, a
multilingual full support would be very important, when it's made well
like in Penumbra Overture.

Well I just watched a
video of the Penumbra Overture intro in German and while I don't
disagree with you the guy who did the voice for Phillip was not very
good at all. I don't speak German so it just sounds like a guy reading
his lines to me and I don't want to sift through video after video just
to hear the voices of Red and Clarence. Those, however, were very good
and I don't think it's unfair to say the German voices are likely
inferior. I am fairly certain that the German localization of Amnesia is
inferior to the original English though because Amnesia has some of the
best voice acting I've ever heard in a game.

Quote: WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON! IF YOU WANT TO DISCUSS PENUMBRA STUFF GO TO THE FUCKING PENUMBRA DISCUSSION! THIS IS ABOUT A MACHINE FOR PIGS FOR FUCK SAKE!

(11-28-2012, 06:53 PM)Paint the man cut the lines Wrote: WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON! IF YOU WANT TO DISCUSS PENUMBRA STUFF GO TO THE FUCKING PENUMBRA DISCUSSION! THIS IS ABOUT A MACHINE FOR PIGS FOR FUCK SAKE!