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RE: Plot Discussion Thread *Spoiler Alert* - Kreekakon - 09-14-2013 (09-14-2013, 04:43 PM)Diz Wrote: This is the first time I lay foot inside this thread, so I have not caught up with what is being discussed or speculated, so I apologize if this has been mentioned before, which it probably has. Anyway, I started up the intro again of the game, and then it occured to me ... I think they actually may be part of the Machine's half of Oswald's minds communicating with him like the telephone calls. They are likely not real at all, since no forces in the game seem to demonstrate reality warping. It is likely I think that the children's image were played off by one part Oswald's guilt in killing them, and another part in the machine noticing, taking advantage of it, and manifesting those into actual images which he used to begin Oswald's motivation to go underground. Notice how the children keep telling daddy to "keep on going" in the general direction that the machine wants him to go. RE: Plot Discussion Thread *Spoiler Alert* - rotten - 09-14-2013 Quote:Notice how the children keep telling daddy to "keep on going" in the general direction that the machine wants him to go.they want him to destroy the Machine as one of the endings, which didn't make the final game, suggests. RE: Plot Discussion Thread *Spoiler Alert* - jacksepticeye - 09-14-2013 (09-14-2013, 02:46 PM)bluel0bster Wrote: Or it could just be that animating all those clocks would be too complicated with their heavy workload... Some of the clock hands ARE animated. They move back and forth between before 12am and after 12am while others don't move at all RE: Plot Discussion Thread *Spoiler Alert* - cantremember - 09-14-2013 I still don't understand half the story. When humans are fed into the machine don't they die and get extracted vitae. How & why did he make manbearpigs. RE: Plot Discussion Thread *Spoiler Alert* - Kein - 09-14-2013 I just had a crazy idea about split timeline, do you think it could work? Death of Lily made some cracks in Oswald's mind/soul, and when he found that Stone Egg (orb?) in the Temple in Mexico it split (we know from DD that Orbs act differently for each person and have many applications) him/his consciousness between/on two timelines: one with Oswald the Engineer and one with Mandus. It explain many things, like doppleganger (evil Oswald in the sarcophagus), the dead-alive kids (one Oswald killed them in Mexico, another didn't), the amnesia (no actual amnesia, Mandus just does not know what his other half, the Engineer, did). Machine -- the Orb? -- brought him to 1st timeline to fix the device, restart it. This also explain all the hints about "bisecuted, split on two" and "make myself whole again", weird flashback ("This is not me! I never said that!"). RE: Plot Discussion Thread *Spoiler Alert* - Vertical - 09-14-2013 About the masks, I found an interesting article on http://people.opposingviews.com/religious-aztec-masks-4453.html Quoting, for the lazies (such as myself ): Spoiler below!
Here I pause and crawl back, some research needs to be done. RE: Plot Discussion Thread *Spoiler Alert* - jacksepticeye - 09-14-2013 (09-14-2013, 05:28 PM)cantremember Wrote: I still don't understand half the story. When humans are fed into the machine don't they die and get extracted vitae. The pig men were created to drag people to the machine for slaughter, like a role reversal of modern pigs and men. Like you see in the attack on London part at the end. They also worked around the machine too I think like sort of guards or security to make sure no one unwelcome got in or none of the orphans tried to escape. They were also created as pigs because Mandus saw real men as pigs and it symbolised his disgust for them as well as pig men being docile to work with RE: Plot Discussion Thread *Spoiler Alert* - Vertical - 09-14-2013 Back with more information. Prepare yourselves. Really. A summary regarding the Fire Ceremony (courtesy of English Wikipedia). Spoiler below!
RE: Plot Discussion Thread *Spoiler Alert* - Kein - 09-14-2013 Quote:"The Atlcahualo was celebrated from the 12th of February until the 3rd of March. Dedicated to the Tlaloque, this veintena involved the sacrifice of many children on sacred mountaintops. The children were beautifully adorned, dressed in the style of Tlaloc and the Tlaloque. On litters strewn with flowers and feathers; surrounded by dancers, they were transported to a shrine and their hearts would be pulled out by priests".Yeah, but it can't be Mexico: Edwin and Enoch's diary, October 3rd 1899 unless we take into account my timeline hypothesis. RE: Plot Discussion Thread *Spoiler Alert* - kita - 09-14-2013 Haven't had a chance to go through the entire thread yet, so apologies if this has been brought up: Someone in a YT comment linked this which talks about the idea of the "influencing machine" as a paranoid delusion of sorts and its kind of pushing me more towards the idea that the majority of what you play through isn't actually "real". Obviously not everything fits and the idea of man/society as a machine is fairly common theme in a lot of things, but its an interesting idea. On a different note, has the great-uncle reference been discussed anymore? I think read here that most people were leaning towards him being a descendant of Alexander- but that almost seems like it doesn't fit what we know from TDD about Alexander's backstory. I'm wondering how much the orb could have shown him or influenced him with; if he could see the future of the 20th century, could he see the past (past in this case being TDD)? I wonder if he meant great-uncle in a metaphorical way like 'he's my predecessor for work with such experiments and the orb so he's like an uncle of sorts'. I also thought maybe he could have been referring to Daniel, since he does have Hazel and all and theoretically the descent line could go that way, but other mentions in the notes/journals don't really fit that either. Sorry for the length :x |