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[temp-solved]game crashs after radio messages - gotzl - 05-30-2007

Hi.

On my system, penumbra crashes nearly everytime when I get those radio messages. To describe it more exactly:
I have undertitel on. And when the narrator is ready with one passage, the game hangs, only the music goes on.
Then, when restarting the game, in most cases the narrator now reads one passage more before the game crashes...

This problem seems not to be reproduceable, because sometimes, i seem to have luck an the game goes on with no problem...

My System: gentoo-linux, kernel-2.6.21, nvidia NV43 (6600GO) with both drivers 9755 and 10014, 1024MB Ram, Pentium M 1.6 ; enough system infos ??

I have applied the newest patch, but it didn't solve the problem...

thanks for your help and sorry about my english ^^

Hmm... Attachments seems not to work for me... so i have to post the log in quoats, sorry about that....
Quote:-------- THE HPL ENGINE LOG ------------

Creating Engine Modules
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Creating graphics module
Creating system module
Creating resource module
Creating input module
Creating sound module
Creating physics module
Creating ai module
Creating scene module
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Initializing Resources Module
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Creating resource managers
Misc Creation
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Initializing Graphics Module
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Init low level graphics
Setting video mode: 1024 x 768 - 32 bpp
Init Glee...OK
Setting up OpenGL
Max texture image units: 16
Max texture coord units: 8
Two sided stencil: 1
Vertex Buffer Object: 1
Anisotropic filtering: 1
Max Anisotropic degree: 16
Multisampling: 1
Vertex Program: 1
Fragment Program: 1
NV Register Combiners: 1
NV Register Combiners Stages: 8
ATI Fragment Shader: 0
Creating graphic systems
Creating Renderer2D
Renderer2D created
Creating Renderer3D
Load Renderer3D gpu programs:
Extrude
Diffuse
Fog
Creating fog textures: Solid Additive Alpha
init sky box
Renderer3D created
Creating screen buffers size 1024.000000 : 768.000000
Creating programs
RendererPostEffects created
Adding engine materials
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Initializing Sound Module
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Initializing OpenAL.
Trying to open audio device... Success!
Device name:
OpenAL Version Supported: 1.0
Number of channels: 32
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Initializing Game Module
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Adding engine updates
Initializing script functions
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User Initialization
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Initializing Penumbra: Overture Episode 1
Version $Rev: 596 $
Date $Date: 2007-05-28 17:07:09 -0400 (Mon, 28 May 2007) $
Trying to load vertex program!
Success!
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Game Running
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Loading collada for 'maps/level01_18_mining_room.dae' took: 528 ms
WARNING: Texture 'blinn15-fx' was not found!
ERROR: Couldn't create material '.mat'
ERROR: Couldn't create material '' for object 'noshadow_nocollide_pCube24'
WARNING: Parent 'group3' couldn't be found! Failed to attach 'artefact01_pointLight1' to 'artefact01'.Attaching directly to mesh.
WARNING: Geometry for joint child '' is missing! Might be connected to bone.
WARNING: Geometry joint parten '' is missing! Might be connected to bone.
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ERROR: Couldn't create material '.mat'
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ERROR: Couldn't create SoundEntity 'break_impact_metal3.snt'
WARNING: Couldn't preload sound 'break_impact_metal3'
WARNING: Could not find language file category ''
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End Num Of: 120
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WARNING: Could not find language file category ''
Loading collada for 'maps/level01_13_B_iron_storage_tunnels.dae' took: 3223 ms
ERROR: Couldn't create material 'modern_mine_cardboardbox.mat'
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WARNING: Entity 'canister1' with file 'mine_canister.ent' has name already taken by 'mine_canister.ent'!
WARNING: Geometry for joint child '' is missing! Might be connected to bone.
WARNING: Geometry joint parten '' is missing! Might be connected to bone.
WARNING: Geometry for joint child '' is missing! Might be connected to bone.
WARNING: Geometry joint parten '' is missing! Might be connected to bone.
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WARNING: Geometry for joint child '' is missing! Might be connected to bone.
WARNING: Geometry joint parten '' is missing! Might be connected to bone.
WARNING: Geometry for joint child '' is missing! Might be connected to bone.
WARNING: Geometry joint parten '' is missing! Might be connected to bone.
WARNING: Geometry for joint child '' is missing! Might be connected to bone.
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WARNING: Geometry for joint child '' is missing! Might be connected to bone.
WARNING: Geometry joint parten '' is missing! Might be connected to bone.
WARNING: Geometry for joint child '' is missing! Might be connected to bone.
WARNING: Geometry joint parten '' is missing! Might be connected to bone.
WARNING: Geometry for joint child '' is missing! Might be connected to bone.
WARNING: Geometry joint parten '' is missing! Might be connected to bone.
WARNING: Geometry for joint child '' is missing! Might be connected to bone.
WARNING: Geometry joint parten '' is missing! Might be connected to bone.
WARNING: Geometry for joint child '' is missing! Might be connected to bone.
WARNING: Geometry joint parten '' is missing! Might be connected to bone.
WARNING: Geometry for joint child '' is missing! Might be connected to bone.
WARNING: Geometry joint parten '' is missing! Might be connected to bone.
WARNING: Geometry for joint child '' is missing! Might be connected to bone.
WARNING: Geometry joint parten '' is missing! Might be connected to bone.
ERROR: Couldn't create material '.mat'
WARNING: Could not load material ''
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ERROR: Couldn't create material '.mat'
WARNING: Could not load material ''
WARNING: Entity 'lamp04' with file 'new_storage_lamp.ent' has name already taken by 'iron_mine_lamp.ent'!
ERROR: Couldn't create material '.mat'
WARNING: Could not load material ''
ERROR: Couldn't create material '.mat'
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Start Num Of: 205
End Num Of: 120
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Loading map 'level01_13_B_iron_storage_tunnels.dae' took: 14458 ms
WARNING: Cannot find item 'uvnote' in inventory
Loading collada for 'maps/level01_13_C_iron_base_tunnels.dae' took: 2466 ms
ERROR: Couldn't create material '.mat'
WARNING: Could not load material ''
ERROR: Couldn't create material '.mat'
WARNING: Could not load material ''
ERROR: Couldn't create material '.mat'
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ERROR: Couldn't create material '.mat'
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WARNING: Texture 'lambert1-fx' was not found!
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ERROR: Couldn't create material '.mat'
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WARNING: Texture 'node-fx' was not found!
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Rebuilding node connections and saving to 'maps/level01_13_C_iron_base_tunnels_Dog.nodes'
Clearing all previously saved maps...
ERROR: Couldn't find global var 'VisitedWorm'
Loading map 'level01_13_C_iron_base_tunnels.dae' took: 7996 ms
Creating saved world level01_13_c_iron_base_tunnels


RE: game crashs after radio messages - ClumsyBoy - 05-31-2007

I am having the same problem. Usually I just load the game over and over until I can get through the message without the game crashing. But I am now at the scene in the refinery where there is a cutscene while red speaks which I can't see to get past. It always seems at different sentences while he speaks too.

Edit: I went back into the game and turned off much of the extra graphics stuff and tried again. This time it didn't crash!

RE: game crashs after radio messages - Urkle - 05-31-2007

Have either of you run "ulimit -c unlimited" before running penumbra so a core dump will be created when the game crashes?

That core file (specifically the backtrace from it) will be very helpful in identifying what is causing the crash.

For an explanation of how to get a backtrace read the documentation on the pidgin.im website

RE: game crashs after radio messages - foulmetal - 05-31-2007

Here I got the same problem, but the game doesn't crash but freezed, I have to kill the application to exit.. No "core" file is created (I've executed ulimit -c unlimited before).
Look at the log there is something related to a "radio timer".

RE: game crashs after radio messages - gotzl - 05-31-2007

same here....
The game crashs not really, but hangs.... Graphics feezes but background music still plays...
I hav to kill Penumbra.
no core file was generated.

RE: game crashs after radio messages - PRAEst76 - 05-31-2007

The is the same issue I've been getting. I've set the resolution down to 800x600 and switched off all unnecessary graphical effects and it still happens. I usually have to kill -9 penumbra and reload a few times to get through one of the radio broadcasts.

RE: game crashs after radio messages - Urkle - 06-01-2007

PRAEst76 Wrote:The is the same issue I've been getting. I've set the resolution down to 800x600 and switched off all unnecessary graphical effects and it still happens. I usually have to kill -9 penumbra and reload a few times to get through one of the radio broadcasts.

OK. Here is a way to get a core dump/backtrace from that.

when it is "hung" switch to TTY 1 and swith to the penumbra game directory

Code:
ps ax | grep penumbra.bin
Note the process ID
Code:
gdb ./penumbra.bin PidFoundFromAbove
then in gdb type
Code:
thread apply all bt full

Post/PM me the contents of that backtrace, that will let me know where it is hanging.

RE: game crashs after radio messages - gotzl - 06-01-2007

Ok,
I hope I did it the correct way...
Here is what I get...

RE: game crashs after radio messages - cisforCOJO - 06-01-2007

gotzl Wrote:Ok,
I hope I did it the correct way...
Here is what I get...

Here is my printout as well. Having the same problem.

(gdb) thread apply all bt full

Thread 4 (Thread -1220113520 (LWP 19361)):
#0 0xffffe410 in __kernel_vsyscall ()
No symbol table info available.
#1 0xb7747e66 in nanosleep () from /lib/tls/i686/cmov/libc.so.6
---Type <return> to continue, or q <return> to quit---
No symbol table info available.
#2 0xb7e50d33 in SDL_Delay () from ./lib/libSDL-1.2.so.0
No symbol table info available.
#3 0xb7e50d75 in ?? () from ./lib/libSDL-1.2.so.0
No symbol table info available.
---Type <return> to continue, or q <return> to quit---
#4 0xb7e04d60 in ?? () from ./lib/libSDL-1.2.so.0
No symbol table info available.
#5 0xb7e4e335 in _ConvertX86p32_8RGB332 () from ./lib/libSDL-1.2.so.0
No symbol table info available.
#6 0xb76a631b in start_thread () from /lib/tls/i686/cmov/libpthread.so.0
---Type <return> to continue, or q <return> to quit---
No symbol table info available.
#7 0xb778757e in clone () from /lib/tls/i686/cmov/libc.so.6
No symbol table info available.

Thread 3 (Thread -1408824432 (LWP 19362)):
---Type <return> to continue, or q <return> to quit---
#0 0xffffe410 in __kernel_vsyscall ()
No symbol table info available.
#1 0xb77803d1 in select () from /lib/tls/i686/cmov/libc.so.6
No symbol table info available.
#2 0xb791bc15 in ?? () from ./lib/libopenal.so.0
---Type <return> to continue, or q <return> to quit---
No symbol table info available.
#3 0xb791d724 in ?? () from ./lib/libopenal.so.0
No symbol table info available.
#4 0xb79253e6 in ?? () from ./lib/libopenal.so.0
No symbol table info available.
---Type <return> to continue, or q <return> to quit---
#5 0xb76a631b in start_thread () from /lib/tls/i686/cmov/libpthread.so.0
No symbol table info available.
#6 0xb778757e in clone () from /lib/tls/i686/cmov/libc.so.6
No symbol table info available.

---Type <return> to continue, or q <return> to quit---
Thread 2 (Thread -1417217136 (LWP 19363)):
#0 0xffffe410 in __kernel_vsyscall ()
No symbol table info available.
#1 0xb76acdae in __lll_mutex_lock_wait ()
from /lib/tls/i686/cmov/libpthread.so.0
---Type <return> to continue, or q <return> to quit---
No symbol table info available.
#2 0xb76a8ac4 in _L_mutex_lock_241 () from /lib/tls/i686/cmov/libpthread.so.0
No symbol table info available.
#3 0xb76a8622 in pthread_mutex_lock () from /lib/tls/i686/cmov/libpthread.so.0
No symbol table info available.
---Type <return> to continue, or q <return> to quit---
#4 0xb7793f26 in pthread_mutex_lock () from /lib/tls/i686/cmov/libc.so.6
No symbol table info available.
#5 0xb7e4e859 in SDL_mutexP () from ./lib/libSDL-1.2.so.0
No symbol table info available.
#6 0x0831f7eb in ?? ()
---Type <return> to continue, or q <return> to quit---
No symbol table info available.
#7 0x08321fbf in ?? ()
No symbol table info available.
#8 0x083220ae in ?? ()
No symbol table info available.
---Type <return> to continue, or q <return> to quit---
#9 0xb7e04d60 in ?? () from ./lib/libSDL-1.2.so.0
No symbol table info available.
#10 0xb7e4e335 in _ConvertX86p32_8RGB332 () from ./lib/libSDL-1.2.so.0
No symbol table info available.
#11 0xb76a631b in start_thread () from /lib/tls/i686/cmov/libpthread.so.0
---Type <return> to continue, or q <return> to quit---
No symbol table info available.
#12 0xb778757e in clone () from /lib/tls/i686/cmov/libc.so.6
No symbol table info available.

Thread 1 (Thread -1220028736 (LWP 19360)):
---Type <return> to continue, or q <return> to quit---
#0 0xffffe410 in __kernel_vsyscall ()
No symbol table info available.
#1 0xb76acdae in __lll_mutex_lock_wait ()
from /lib/tls/i686/cmov/libpthread.so.0
No symbol table info available.
---Type <return> to continue, or q <return> to quit---
#2 0xb76a8ac4 in _L_mutex_lock_241 () from /lib/tls/i686/cmov/libpthread.so.0
No symbol table info available.
#3 0xb76a8622 in pthread_mutex_lock () from /lib/tls/i686/cmov/libpthread.so.0
No symbol table info available.
#4 0xb7793f26 in pthread_mutex_lock () from /lib/tls/i686/cmov/libc.so.6
---Type <return> to continue, or q <return> to quit---
No symbol table info available.
#5 0xb7e4e859 in SDL_mutexP () from ./lib/libSDL-1.2.so.0
No symbol table info available.
#6 0x08321b65 in ?? ()
No symbol table info available.
---Type <return> to continue, or q <return> to quit---
#7 0x08322291 in ?? ()
No symbol table info available.
#8 0x0832150e in ?? ()
No symbol table info available.
#9 0x0832607f in ?? ()
---Type <return> to continue, or q <return> to quit---
No symbol table info available.
#10 0x0831ecdf in ?? ()
No symbol table info available.
#11 0x082f7706 in ?? ()
No symbol table info available.
---Type <return> to continue, or q <return> to quit---
#12 0x081979de in ?? ()
No symbol table info available.
#13 0x08176ed3 in ?? ()
No symbol table info available.
#14 0x0827a4a2 in ?? ()
---Type <return> to continue, or q <return> to quit---
No symbol table info available.
#15 0x08269224 in ?? ()
No symbol table info available.
#16 0x0810e141 in ?? ()
No symbol table info available.
---Type <return> to continue, or q <return> to quit---
#17 0xb76cdebc in __libc_start_main () from /lib/tls/i686/cmov/libc.so.6
No symbol table info available.
#18 0x0804f591 in ?? ()
No symbol table info available.
#0 0xffffe410 in __kernel_vsyscall ()
(gdb) quit

RE: game crashs after radio messages - Urkle - 06-02-2007

Those were exactly what I was needing. Thanks cisforCOJO and gotzl.