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RE: Plot Discussion Thread *Spoiler Alert* - Jim - 09-13-2013 I just beat the game, and skimming this thread along with a quick Google search didn't answer my biggest question. So, sorry if it's already been answered somewhere. What does the machine do? Edit: Grammar RE: Plot Discussion Thread *Spoiler Alert* - Kein - 09-13-2013 (09-13-2013, 04:29 AM)Alardem Wrote: So how long has the 'Engineer' existed? Before the trip to Mexico? We don't know if Engineer ever existed at all. There is no evidence, but we few time encounter statements that Mandus built the Machine. This could imply he is the Engineer. RE: Plot Discussion Thread *Spoiler Alert* - PathOS - 09-13-2013 I just got that recording in the sewers where Mandus is talking to the Professor and is asked about the mysterious Engineer and if he shares his views. Mandus emphatically says that indeed he does, and that "this is not the first great civilization he has wept for". While the Engineer may be Mandus' split persona, I also wonder if maybe it is also an extra-dimensional entity that possessed Mandus and used him as a host. In the laboratory is all the notes about Compound X and how it is implied that that's the "medicine" they were feeding the people who transformed into manpigs. Especially with that note that was apparently written by a subject who describes how drinking the stuff makes you puke and shit out your internal organs, and how a beast under the blanket was drinking it too. I do wonder if the August 1898 note about Compound X was a typo, since that seems to completely go against the timeline since Mandus hadn't even begun doing any of these things until after his Mexico trip in early 1899, let alone compound X not being "perfected" yet (had to add the other Orgone half of the compound to supplement the Vitae). RE: Plot Discussion Thread *Spoiler Alert* - Alardem - 09-13-2013 Mandus has wept for the Aztecs AND the fall of many an empire in the aftermath of the 20th century's wars. ;-) RE: Plot Discussion Thread *Spoiler Alert* - Corbent - 09-13-2013 (09-13-2013, 05:44 AM)Tobi Wrote: I also wonder if maybe it is also an extra-dimensional entity that possessed Mandus and used him as a host. Holy shit!!! It's the Tuurngait. Run! RE: Plot Discussion Thread *Spoiler Alert* - PathOS - 09-13-2013 Mandus also tells the Professor that "I am merely a Conduit" In the March 1899 note he also speaks of how he can only hear the "voice within the gentlest of stones. It sings to me and I dream of a great machine." Later he talks about how he'd set the stone on the mantle and then proceed to "recraft" (massacre) the servants of his household. Burying their skulls in the garden. (funny allusion to an earlier note, possibly a loading screen note, that talks how upset Mandus got when someone suggested to remove the Rhododendrons, where he buried them) It definitely sounds like there was a presence within the stone/orb that took a hold of him. Or the orb created a second persona within him. In fact, just after you find this note the Engineer recites it to you in the Core systems, though speaking now from "his" point of view "and you put me atop the mantlepiece and set upon recrafting the servants, and you buried them in the garden alone" RE: Plot Discussion Thread *Spoiler Alert* - Xenomorph - 09-13-2013 (09-13-2013, 05:33 AM)Jim Wrote: I just beat the game, and skimming this thread along with a quick Google search didn't answer my biggest question. So, sorry if it's already been answered somewhere. Controls the pigs, and just its general nature. The whole factory in itself, and what it was doing with chemical X, its also deep metaphor to go along with the story. Mandus essentially poured a piece of his essence into it and it became cognitive, speaks to him through the phone pieces and later in his mind. Its bent on the will of overthrowing life and existence through use of the pigs, as you see when the town is being overthrown and people are being slaughtered. When Magnus dies the machine dies too and so do the pigs. RE: Plot Discussion Thread *Spoiler Alert* - Gilligan's Hell - 09-13-2013 (09-12-2013, 10:37 PM)APSS2013 Wrote: Has everyone failed to notice this shortcut? I Used it twice in my playtrough. RE: Plot Discussion Thread *Spoiler Alert* - Kotch - 09-13-2013 So I just played the game for the second time and I think I understand the story a lot more. Some of this may be wrong, but this is my take on the story. I'll apologize ahead of time for this being so long. And of course THERE WILL BE SPOILERS Spoiler below!
RE: Plot Discussion Thread *Spoiler Alert* - rotten - 09-13-2013 I'm glad someone agrees that the voice on the phone is the Egg's. So it goes like this: >Mandus goes to Mexico in search for treasure >Finds the Egg in a temple >Egg gives him fever and vision (that's typical lovecraftian thing btw) >He starts building a much bigger machine, digging deeper and finding the temple >He places the Egg in the temple like it was placed in Mexico >The Egg needs blood to hatch, so Mandus begins to sacrifice people like aztecs did. >Mandus thinks it's the way to stop sky from falling or, in other words, to stop the horrors of XXI century >The entity of the Egg is using Mandus, it's real goal being to hatch and be freed (so I guess). >The Egg makes Mandus sacrifice his own children and so he does, but this is so huge for him that he finally regains sanity and tries to destroy the machine. >He floods it and tries to rip some wires which leads to an electric shock and memory loss. |