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Level editor crashes when placing entities - burge4150 - 02-13-2014 I'm having a level editor issue. I can build floors and walls and ceilings without any issue, but when I start placing entities, the editor always crashes. Sometimes I can place one or two with no issue, but ultimately it always ends in a crash. Here is the log file: I have deleted the temp and thumbnail folders in my documents, that did not fix the issue. -------- THE HPL ENGINE LOG ------------ Engine build ID 20100819012504 Creating Engine Modules -------------------------------------------------------- Creating graphics module Creating system module Creating resource module Creating input module Creating sound module Creating physics module Creating ai module Creating gui module Creating generate module Creating haptic module Creating scene module -------------------------------------------------------- Initializing Resources Module -------------------------------------------------------- Creating loader handlers Creating resource managers Adding loaders to handlers -------------------------------------------------------- Initializing Graphics Module -------------------------------------------------------- Setting video mode: 1024 x 768 - 32 bpp Init Glew...OK Setting up OpenGL Vendor: NVIDIA Corporation Renderer: GeForce 9500 GT/PCI/SSE2 Version: 2.1.2 Max texture image units: 32 Max texture coord units: 8 Max user clip planes: 6 Two sided stencil: 1 Vertex Buffer Object: 1 Anisotropic filtering: 1 Max Anisotropic degree: 16 Multisampling: 1 Texture compression: 1 Texture compression S3TC: 1 Auto generate MipMaps: 1 Render to texture: 1 Max draw buffers: 8 Max color render targets: 8 Packed depth-stencil: 1 Texture float: 1 GLSL Version: 1.20 NVIDIA via Cg compiler ShaderModel 2: 1 ShaderModel 3: 1 ShaderModel 4: 1 OGL ATIFragmentShader: 0 ATTENTION: System does not support const arrays in glsl! Adding engine materials Initializing DevIL Vendor String: Abysmal Software Version String: Developer's Image Library (DevIL) 1.6.8pre Aug 12 2006 Version Number: 168 Adding engine post effects -------------------------------------------------------- Initializing Sound Module -------------------------------------------------------- Initializing OpenAL Available OpenAL devices: 0. Generic Hardware on C-Media Wave Device(OpenAL default) 1. Generic Software on C-Media Wave Device Trying to open device 'Generic Hardware on C-Media Wave Device'... Success! Number of mono sources: 15 Streaming setup: 2 Buffers x 524288 bytes each -------------------------------------------------------- Initializing Game Module -------------------------------------------------------- Adding engine updates Initializing script functions -------------------------------------------------------- User Initialization -------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------------------------- LevelEditor Build ID: 20100917115131 ----------------------------------------------------- Created Entity Loader Added object type: Compound <Compound> Added object type: Light <BoxLight> Added object type: Light <PointLight> Added object type: Light <SpotLight> Added object type: Billboard <Billboard> Added object type: Particle System <ParticleSystem> Added object type: Sound <Sound> Added object type: Static Object <StaticObject> Added object type: Entity <Entity> StaticProp Added object type: Entity <Entity> CommentaryIcon Added object type: Entity <Entity> Object,Static Added object type: Entity <Entity> Object,Grab Added object type: Entity <Entity> Object,Push Added object type: Entity <Entity> Object,Slide Added object type: Entity <Entity> SwingDoor Added object type: Entity <Entity> Lever Added object type: Entity <Entity> Wheel Added object type: Entity <Entity> MultiSlider Added object type: Entity <Entity> Lamp Added object type: Entity <Entity> Button Added object type: Entity <Entity> Photocell Added object type: Entity <Entity> MoveObject Added object type: Entity <Entity> Item,Puzzle Added object type: Entity <Entity> Item,Coins Added object type: Entity <Entity> Item,Note Added object type: Entity <Entity> Item,Diary Added object type: Entity <Entity> Item,Lantern Added object type: Entity <Entity> Item,Health Added object type: Entity <Entity> Item,Sanity Added object type: Entity <Entity> Item,LampOil Added object type: Entity <Entity> Item,Tinderbox Added object type: Entity <Entity> Item,HandObject Added object type: Entity <Entity> Chest Added object type: Entity <Entity> OilBarrel Added object type: Entity <Entity> EmotionStone Added object type: Entity <Entity> NPC Added object type: Entity <Entity> LevelDoor Added object type: Entity <Entity> CritterBug Added object type: Entity <Entity> CritterSpider Added object type: Entity <Entity> Enemy_Grunt Added object type: Entity <Entity> Enemy_WaterLurker Added object type: Entity <Entity> PlayerHands Added object type: Entity <Entity> HandObject Added object type: Area <Area> Script Added object type: Area <Area> PosNode Added object type: Area <Area> Flashback Added object type: Area <Area> Sign Added object type: Area <Area> SlimeDamage Added object type: Area <Area> Examine Added object type: Area <Area> Insanity Added object type: Area <Area> Ladder Added object type: Area <Area> Liquid Added object type: Area <Area> Sticky Added object type: Area <Area> Rope Added object type: Area <Area> PathNode Added object type: Area <Area> PlayerStart Added object type: Primitive <Plane> Added object type: Decal <Decal> Added object type: FogArea <FogArea> ///////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// // Resetting scene ///////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// -------------------------------------------------------- Game Running -------------------------------------------------------- Failed parsing of XML document C:/Documents and Settings/Brian Burger/My Documents/HPL2/Temp/Amnesia - The Dark Descent.tls in line 1, column 1 Failed parsing of XML document C:/Documents and Settings/Brian Burger/My Documents/HPL2/Temp/static_objects.tls in line 1, column 1 Failed parsing of XML document C:/Documents and Settings/Brian Burger/My Documents/HPL2/Temp/mansionbase.tls in line 1, column 1 Failed parsing of XML document C:/Documents and Settings/Brian Burger/My Documents/HPL2/Temp/floor.tls in line 1, column 1 WARNING: Trying to delete pointer 112950648 in file \Hpl_2\tools\editors\common\EditorThumbnailBuilder.cpp at line 283 that does not exist! WARNING: Trying to delete pointer 113694640 in file \Hpl_2\tools\editors\common\EditorWindowTextureBrowser.cpp at line 46 that does not exist! WARNING: Trying to delete pointer 113694640 in file \Hpl_2\tools\editors\common\EditorWindowTextureBrowser.cpp at line 46 that does not exist! WARNING: Trying to delete pointer 113694968 in file \Hpl_2\tools\editors\common\EditorThumbnailBuilder.cpp at line 283 that does not exist! WARNING: Trying to delete pointer 113694640 in file \Hpl_2\tools\editors\common\EditorWindowTextureBrowser.cpp at line 46 that does not exist! WARNING: Trying to delete pointer 113694640 in file \Hpl_2\tools\editors\common\EditorWindowTextureBrowser.cpp at line 46 that does not exist! WARNING: Trying to delete pointer 112910888 in file \Hpl_2\tools\editors\common\EditorThumbnailBuilder.cpp at line 283 that does not exist! WARNING: Trying to delete pointer 113694640 in file \Hpl_2\tools\editors\common\EditorWindowTextureBrowser.cpp at line 46 that does not exist! WARNING: Trying to delete pointer 112910888 in file \Hpl_2\tools\editors\common\EditorThumbnailBuilder.cpp at line 283 that does not exist! WARNING: Trying to delete pointer 112950648 in file \Hpl_2\tools\editors\common\EditorWindowTextureBrowser.cpp at line 46 that does not exist! WARNING: Trying to delete pointer 113694640 in file \Hpl_2\tools\editors\common\EditorThumbnailBuilder.cpp at line 283 that does not exist! WARNING: Trying to delete pointer 112950648 in file \Hpl_2\tools\editors\common\EditorWindowTextureBrowser.cpp at line 46 that does not exist! WARNING: Trying to delete pointer 113694640 in file \Hpl_2\tools\editors\common\EditorThumbnailBuilder.cpp at line 283 that does not exist! WARNING: Trying to delete pointer 112950648 in file \Hpl_2\tools\editors\common\EditorWindowTextureBrowser.cpp at line 46 that does not exist! WARNING: Trying to delete pointer 113070088 in file \Hpl_2\tools\editors\common\EditorWindowTextureBrowser.cpp at line 364 that does not exist! WARNING: Trying to delete pointer 113070088 in file \Hpl_2\tools\editors\common\EditorWindowTextureBrowser.cpp at line 364 that does not exist! Failed parsing of XML document C:/Documents and Settings/Brian Burger/My Documents/HPL2/Temp/mansionbase.sop in line 1, column 1 WARNING: Trying to delete pointer 114790712 in file \Hpl_2\tools\editors\common\EditorThumbnailBuilder.cpp at line 160 that does not exist! WARNING: Trying to delete pointer 114790712 in file \Hpl_2\tools\editors\common\EditorThumbnailBuilder.cpp at line 160 that does not exist! WARNING: Trying to delete pointer 114790712 in file \Hpl_2\tools\editors\common\EditorThumbnailBuilder.cpp at line 160 that does not exist! WARNING: Trying to delete pointer 114790712 in file \Hpl_2\tools\editors\common\EditorThumbnailBuilder.cpp at line 160 that does not exist! WARNING: Trying to delete pointer 114863512 in file \Hpl_2\tools\editors\common\EditorThumbnailBuilder.cpp at line 160 that does not exist! WARNING: Trying to delete pointer 114865328 in file \Hpl_2\tools\editors\common\EditorThumbnailBuilder.cpp at line 160 that does not exist! WARNING: Trying to delete pointer 114865328 in file \Hpl_2\tools\editors\common\EditorThumbnailBuilder.cpp at line 160 that does not exist! WARNING: Trying to delete pointer 114865328 in file \Hpl_2\tools\editors\common\EditorThumbnailBuilder.cpp at line 160 that does not exist! WARNING: Trying to delete pointer 114865328 in file \Hpl_2\tools\editors\common\EditorThumbnailBuilder.cpp at line 160 that does not exist! WARNING: Trying to delete pointer 114865328 in file \Hpl_2\tools\editors\common\EditorThumbnailBuilder.cpp at line 160 that does not exist! WARNING: Trying to delete pointer 114865512 in file \Hpl_2\tools\editors\common\EditorThumbnailBuilder.cpp at line 160 that does not exist! WARNING: Trying to delete pointer 114868672 in file \Hpl_2\tools\editors\common\EditorThumbnailBuilder.cpp at line 160 that does not exist! WARNING: Trying to delete pointer 114868672 in file \Hpl_2\tools\editors\common\EditorThumbnailBuilder.cpp at line 160 that does not exist! WARNING: Trying to delete pointer 114868672 in file \Hpl_2\tools\editors\common\EditorThumbnailBuilder.cpp at line 160 that does not exist! WARNING: Trying to delete pointer 115564384 in file \Hpl_2\tools\editors\common\EditorThumbnailBuilder.cpp at line 160 that does not exist! WARNING: Trying to delete pointer 115736024 in file \Hpl_2\tools\editors\common\EditorThumbnailBuilder.cpp at line 160 that does not exist! WARNING: Trying to delete pointer 115571968 in file \Hpl_2\tools\editors\common\EditorThumbnailBuilder.cpp at line 160 that does not exist! WARNING: Trying to delete pointer 115571968 in file \Hpl_2\tools\editors\common\EditorThumbnailBuilder.cpp at line 160 that does not exist! WARNING: Trying to delete pointer 115571968 in file \Hpl_2\tools\editors\common\EditorThumbnailBuilder.cpp at line 160 that does not exist! WARNING: Trying to delete pointer 115571968 in file \Hpl_2\tools\editors\common\EditorThumbnailBuilder.cpp at line 160 that does not exist! WARNING: Trying to delete pointer 115571968 in file \Hpl_2\tools\editors\common\EditorThumbnailBuilder.cpp at line 160 that does not exist! WARNING: Trying to delete pointer 115800656 in file \Hpl_2\tools\editors\common\EditorThumbnailBuilder.cpp at line 160 that does not exist! WARNING: Trying to delete pointer 115571968 in file \Hpl_2\tools\editors\common\EditorThumbnailBuilder.cpp at line 160 that does not exist! WARNING: Trying to delete pointer 115571968 in file \Hpl_2\tools\editors\common\EditorThumbnailBuilder.cpp at line 160 that does not exist! WARNING: Trying to delete pointer 115800656 in file \Hpl_2\tools\editors\common\EditorThumbnailBuilder.cpp at line 160 that does not exist! WARNING: Trying to delete pointer 115800656 in file \Hpl_2\tools\editors\common\EditorThumbnailBuilder.cpp at line 160 that does not exist! WARNING: Trying to delete pointer 115800656 in file \Hpl_2\tools\editors\common\EditorThumbnailBuilder.cpp at line 160 that does not exist! WARNING: Trying to delete pointer 115572312 in file \Hpl_2\tools\editors\common\EditorThumbnailBuilder.cpp at line 160 that does not exist! WARNING: Trying to delete pointer 115800656 in file \Hpl_2\tools\editors\common\EditorThumbnailBuilder.cpp at line 160 that does not exist! WARNING: Trying to delete pointer 115736024 in file \Hpl_2\tools\editors\common\EditorThumbnailBuilder.cpp at line 160 that does not exist! WARNING: Trying to delete pointer 115572448 in file \Hpl_2\tools\editors\common\EditorThumbnailBuilder.cpp at line 160 that does not exist! WARNING: Trying to delete pointer 115800656 in file \Hpl_2\tools\editors\common\EditorThumbnailBuilder.cpp at line 160 that does not exist! WARNING: Trying to delete pointer 115800656 in file \Hpl_2\tools\editors\common\EditorThumbnailBuilder.cpp at line 160 that does not exist! WARNING: Trying to delete pointer 115800656 in file \Hpl_2\tools\editors\common\EditorThumbnailBuilder.cpp at line 160 that does not exist! WARNING: Trying to delete pointer 115800656 in file \Hpl_2\tools\editors\common\EditorThumbnailBuilder.cpp at line 160 that does not exist! WARNING: Trying to delete pointer 115800656 in file \Hpl_2\tools\editors\common\EditorThumbnailBuilder.cpp at line 160 that does not exist! WARNING: Trying to delete pointer 115800656 in file \Hpl_2\tools\editors\common\EditorThumbnailBuilder.cpp at line 160 that does not exist! WARNING: Trying to delete pointer 115800656 in file \Hpl_2\tools\editors\common\EditorThumbnailBuilder.cpp at line 160 that does not exist! WARNING: Trying to delete pointer 115800656 in file \Hpl_2\tools\editors\common\EditorThumbnailBuilder.cpp at line 160 that does not exist! WARNING: Trying to delete pointer 144770960 in file \Hpl_2\tools\editors\common\EditorThumbnailBuilder.cpp at line 160 that does not exist! WARNING: Trying to delete pointer 144770960 in file \Hpl_2\tools\editors\common\EditorThumbnailBuilder.cpp at line 160 that does not exist! Failed parsing of XML document C:/Documents and Settings/Brian Burger/My Documents/HPL2/Temp/furniture.enp in line 1, column 1 WARNING: Trying to delete pointer 145310408 in file \Hpl_2\tools\editors\common\EditorThumbnailBuilder.cpp at line 160 that does not exist! WARNING: Trying to delete pointer 145168128 in file \Hpl_2\tools\editors\common\EditorThumbnailBuilder.cpp at line 160 that does not exist! WARNING: Trying to delete pointer 145353480 in file \Hpl_2\tools\editors\common\EditorThumbnailBuilder.cpp at line 160 that does not exist! WARNING: Trying to delete pointer 145719032 in file \Hpl_2\tools\editors\common\EditorThumbnailBuilder.cpp at line 160 that does not exist! WARNING: Trying to delete pointer 145587416 in file \Hpl_2\tools\editors\common\EditorThumbnailBuilder.cpp at line 160 that does not exist! WARNING: Trying to delete pointer 145696104 in file \Hpl_2\tools\editors\common\EditorThumbnailBuilder.cpp at line 160 that does not exist! WARNING: Trying to delete pointer 145584200 in file \Hpl_2\tools\editors\common\EditorThumbnailBuilder.cpp at line 160 that does not exist! WARNING: Trying to delete pointer 144968296 in file \Hpl_2\tools\editors\common\EditorThumbnailBuilder.cpp at line 160 that does not exist! WARNING: Trying to delete pointer 145832072 in file \Hpl_2\tools\editors\common\EditorThumbnailBuilder.cpp at line 160 that does not exist! WARNING: Trying to delete pointer 145693176 in file \Hpl_2\tools\editors\common\EditorThumbnailBuilder.cpp at line 160 that does not exist! WARNING: Trying to delete pointer 146218928 in file \Hpl_2\tools\editors\common\EditorThumbnailBuilder.cpp at line 160 that does not exist! WARNING: Trying to delete pointer 145312048 in file \Hpl_2\tools\editors\common\EditorThumbnailBuilder.cpp at line 160 that does not exist! 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WARNING: Trying to delete pointer 146751008 in file \Hpl_2\tools\editors\common\EditorThumbnailBuilder.cpp at line 160 that does not exist! WARNING: Trying to delete pointer 147670448 in file \Hpl_2\tools\editors\common\EditorThumbnailBuilder.cpp at line 160 that does not exist! WARNING: Trying to delete pointer 145070096 in file \Hpl_2\tools\editors\common\EditorThumbnailBuilder.cpp at line 160 that does not exist! WARNING: Trying to delete pointer 147931648 in file \Hpl_2\tools\editors\common\EditorThumbnailBuilder.cpp at line 160 that does not exist! WARNING: Trying to delete pointer 147931648 in file \Hpl_2\tools\editors\common\EditorThumbnailBuilder.cpp at line 160 that does not exist! WARNING: Trying to delete pointer 147931648 in file \Hpl_2\tools\editors\common\EditorThumbnailBuilder.cpp at line 160 that does not exist! WARNING: Trying to delete pointer 144967608 in file \Hpl_2\tools\editors\common\EditorThumbnailBuilder.cpp at line 160 that does not exist! WARNING: Trying to delete pointer 147413448 in file \Hpl_2\tools\editors\common\EditorThumbnailBuilder.cpp at line 160 that does not exist! WARNING: Trying to delete pointer 146209712 in file \Hpl_2\tools\editors\common\EditorThumbnailBuilder.cpp at line 160 that does not exist! WARNING: Trying to delete pointer 146209712 in file \Hpl_2\tools\editors\common\EditorThumbnailBuilder.cpp at line 160 that does not exist! WARNING: Trying to delete pointer 145696192 in file \Hpl_2\tools\editors\common\EditorThumbnailBuilder.cpp at line 160 that does not exist! WARNING: Trying to delete pointer 145388520 in file \Hpl_2\tools\editors\common\EditorThumbnailBuilder.cpp at line 160 that does not exist! WARNING: Trying to delete pointer 148391768 in file \Hpl_2\tools\editors\common\EditorThumbnailBuilder.cpp at line 160 that does not exist! WARNING: Trying to delete pointer 148480880 in file \Hpl_2\tools\editors\common\EditorThumbnailBuilder.cpp at line 160 that does not exist! WARNING: Trying to delete pointer 148480880 in file \Hpl_2\tools\editors\common\EditorThumbnailBuilder.cpp at line 160 that does not exist! WARNING: Trying to delete pointer 148981776 in file \Hpl_2\tools\editors\common\EditorThumbnailBuilder.cpp at line 160 that does not exist! RE: Level editor crashes when placing entities - Neelke - 02-13-2014 What type of entities? RE: Level editor crashes when placing entities - Mudbill - 02-13-2014 Are you able to navigate to this path it's referring to? \Hpl_2\tools\editors\common\ Have you tried reinstalling the editors? RE: Level editor crashes when placing entities - burge4150 - 02-13-2014 I have reinstalled the editor with no success. As for navigating to that path, it's not even a real harddrive location, notice the /'s are backwards from a directory path. Also, it seems the crash doesn't occur just when placing entities. I opened an existing Amnesia game map to look around it, and after scrolling around for a moment it crashed with the same type or error. The maps, however, do not crash until entities or doors or such things exist on them. Walls and floors do not cause the issue. RE: Level editor crashes when placing entities - Mudbill - 02-13-2014 Windows uses back slashes for directory paths. If you type in C:\ in Explorer, it arrives at your C drive (as expected). I have noticed that going to Documents showed up to me as "C:\User\Documents/whatever" where it suddenly changed slash. Dunno what that's about. Mac OS uses forward slashes for paths though. It also seems the Amnesia configs use them, regardless of OS. I'm kinda confused about that. As for the issue here, I am really not sure. It sounds like the editors are missing something they need in order to process these entities. Doing a complete reinstall of both Amnesia and the editors I only suggest as a last option. Not having to reinstall would be preferred though. Perhaps someone else knows anything about this, cause I have not encountered it before. Perhaps you can try wiping your HPL folder in Documents. I believe it is generated when you launch the editors, and since they're in a different location, they aren't uninstalled or replaced if you reinstall the editors in the Amnesia directory. RE: Level editor crashes when placing entities - burge4150 - 02-13-2014 I did wipe the HPL folder, it didn't seem to fix the issue. I haven't reinstalled amnesia yet, I suppose that's my next thing to try. If those directories are real directories, I can't find them. I don't know where the \Hpl_2\tools\editors\common\ folder is located. It's not in the game directory and it's not in the My Documents HPL folder either. RE: Level editor crashes when placing entities - Mudbill - 02-13-2014 Yeah, I can't say I'm familiar with that path. I have not actually seen it before. If you are to attempt the reinstall and it turns out to not work, then I have no idea what it could be. They worked before, right? Could it be an issue with your computer? I doubt it is, but I don't know. RE: Level editor crashes when placing entities - burge4150 - 02-13-2014 I can't say it has ever worked before because I only recently discovered Amnesia and it's editor. I have the GoG (Good old Games) version of Amnesia, not sure if anyone else here has had success or issues using that particular download. RE: Level editor crashes when placing entities - Mudbill - 02-13-2014 As far as I know, the editors are confirmed to work with Retail and Steam copies. I'm unsure about others. RE: Level editor crashes when placing entities - burge4150 - 02-14-2014 Anybody else have any insight? I have reinstalled the game and the editor with no fix in sight. I can load any game map that came with the game, but as soon as I scroll the camera around a bit I get the same crash.