[INTERESTING ARTICLE; See Page 8] Discussion: Thoughts on Piracy

[Yuhaney]

You need internet connection to download the game.
I have a strong feeling that Googolplex's point of view is pretty much the same as I do.

After you buy the game, you shouldn't need internet to use it.
It would be nice add to the final product that you could use it online, but not actually forced to use it.
Just think the game as a dishwasher, tap or an oven.

After you bought the product, every time you want to do something with it, you would need to connect to the internet, update it with the latest firmware just to make sure you're not abusing the product you have paid for, and after that, the server is not available because internet hasn't existed since the year 2265 and now you're living in 3676.
So, you can't do anything about it but you're still thirsty, hungry and you have dirty dishes...

[Your Computer]

Pirating a game because of anti-piracy techniques or DRM is like pirating a game because it costs too much. You're not achieving anything and are only encouraging the thing you are against.

[Googolplex]

You need to login to your account already for installation.
Otherwise you are no longer able to install the game.
You payed full price for it and can't play it because third party servers/ account problems.

I do not buy my games just for playing, I wanted to own them for my collection.
I love all my games! It's not just for playing.
Perhaps I want to play all my games 20 years later with my children. And for sure, no activation server does exist for a very long time.
No matter whether I'm able to go in offline mode. The fact is that I need online connection for installation and this will make my games worthless in my opinion.
So I have to choose an other way to get games working.

[Prelauncher]

Pirating a game because of anti-piracy techniques or DRM is like pirating a game because it costs too much. You're not achieving anything and are only encouraging the thing you are against.

But by buying the game you "accept" and support the way the game is borrowed to you; DRM and all. It's one big evil circle.
Jim Sterling at The Escapist had a good point how on fight the anti-piracy techniques that only punish the buyer: The best way to do it is to do what gamers do best: Whine!
By pirating a game or boycotting it etc the chances of getting rid of anti-piracy techniques are very small, but if you whine and complain you'll force publishers and developers to listen. Nobody likes having to deal with tons of complaints, which is why whining works. It worked with ME3 and Dark Souls (PC release) so it's the best tool to fight DRM

[Your Computer]

But by buying the game you "accept" and support the way the game is borrowed to you; DRM and all. It's one big evil circle.

The opposite of piracy is not necessarily buying the game.

Jim Sterling at The Escapist had a good point how on fight the anti-piracy techniques that only punish the buyer: The best way to do it is to do what gamers do best: Whine!
By pirating a game or boycotting it etc the chances of getting rid of anti-piracy techniques are very small, but if you whine and complain you'll force publishers and developers to listen. Nobody likes having to deal with tons of complaints, which is why whining works. It worked with ME3 and Dark Souls (PC release) so it's the best tool to fight DRM

Indeed, speaking with your wallet is more effective than piracy.

[Gaviao]

look,even being a brazilian i bought the game with a international card,but there are many websites out here that you can download amnesia very easily without have to pay... and if you search how much a game costs here on brazil... it costs 150 dollars a original cd over here. the best way to buy is with international card xD, but just saying,you will never know who really bought the game on this forum... maybe even the creators of amnesia pirated the amnesia O_o
EDIT:you can't run from me jens, i know you that are reading that xD

[Danny Boy]

look,even being a brazilian i bought the game with a international card,but there are many websites out here that you can download amnesia very easily without have to pay... and if you search how much a game costs here on brazil... it costs 150 dollars a original cd over here. the best way to buy is with international card xD, but just saying,you will never know who really bought the game on this forum... maybe even the creators of amnesia pirated the amnesia O_o
EDIT:you can't run from me jens, i know you that are reading that xD

Creators of amnesia downloaded amnesia via torrent... seems legit.

[Ghieri]

I thought about ripping one of the games I made off of a website I published it to because I lost the source file before. Not completely unheard of.

[the dark side]

if the games companies dont want to get pirated, they should

1, make games that are actually worth buying! instead of just hashing out yet another buggy, rushed, clone of this years Call Of Duty/Gears or War/Burnout multiplayer and tacking on a 2 hour tutorial for SP, you cannot charge 60 quid for that, i genuinely agree that many of todays games are too expensive for what they are, for what they offer, to me at least, most are not even worth a tenner,

2, they should make DRM more fair, "Online pass" should only Block Multiplayer if not activated, it shouldn't remove content, like guns or cars, from the single player mode. and a new pass should be FREE, Not 10 quid a pop. The game should also have a DRM that lets you play a BIT of the game, say, the first 4 levels, before it does something to stop the player getting any further, you know, like the immortal pink scorpian in SSIII.

always online DRM should only affect MP mode if you ask me, for offline, the game should come with an Install code, multiple use, printed on the disk face (not the manual, manuals can get misplaced or torn remember!), or sent via email from the digital provider, the code should have NO use limit, its just to prove its a legitimate disk/Download, meaning, even if Steam goes bump, or when all the EA servers shut because mainstream gaming collapses taking them down the porcelain tunnel with it, youll still be able to play the SP mode, its just MP mode that will be dead.

as for "pirating to test" the answer to that is so simple. Bring Back Shareware! the first 5 or 6 levels of the game, free, on a disk with say PC gamer, or off a special page on Steam (wich will alow you to get the game straight after you have finished the shareware via steam, meaning more buyers, and thus more money).

i totally disagree on piracy, because it puts people out of work, and its meant some great studios like "People Can Fly" have ended up running out of money, getting snarled up by some greedy american megacorp like Evil Alliance, and has eneded up being forced to make boring, generic Call of Duty clones (cough, bulletstorm, cough) while there new paymasters fire half the staff to make the studio "cheaper to run" so they can suck more money out of the profits to buy lear jets. and then end up all loosing there jobs when the new IP fails, because, basically, it sucks, because its just a direct clone of COD in terms of gameplay with a cheap knock off of Gears Of War serving for an "art style" and isnt what the studios old, Established, fans want, and the casuals wont buy anyway because it doesnt say "Call of Duty", or "Battlefeild" on the box.

but sadly, i also must state that the mainstream games industry, with its unfair DRM, its downright Discriminatory hatred agaisnt people on a low budget who have to buy second hand, and charging FAR to much money for what the games they make actually are worth, as well as there focus on technologically inferior consoles and, if all the controll hints are anything to go by, virtually brain dead casual gamers resulting in pc versions that are graphically useless and full of glitches, as well as being short, far too easy, and extremely boring to play, that would be overpriced even if they were free, has bought this tide of piracy down upon itself, it deserves every bit of bad treatment it gets.

and as much as i hate pirates for what there selfish behavior has done to people like PCF, IDsoft, 4A studios and GSC gameworks, if they cause EA, Activision, Ubisoft, THQ and all of the other big american megacorps to crash wich means gaming can reset itself because all the casual gamers will go away as there will be no one providing for them, i am afraid to say, in my opinion, the CRIMINAL (Piracy is a crime, thus those who pirate are criminals who should, in my opinion, be locked up) behavior of these pirates will be worth it.

[Zaffre]

So we should all pirate games from EA?

I like it.