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RE: Absolute Wuss

(05-19-2012, 06:19 AM)Cranky Old Man Wrote:
(05-18-2012, 02:53 PM)Bridge Wrote: 1. So you are proving that sensationalist bullshit is not bullshit by citing sensationalist bullshit. Well done. No really, it is a good tactic. Videogames do affect people on a very deep level (enough to make them kill people) yes, but these people are either extremely weak-minded or legally insane. Normal, sensible people do not react this way to stimuli. If you take someone when they are an infant and train them to become murderers by playing violent video games all their life all the while telling them that it is the correct thing to do then videogames can affect people. But guess what? Videogames are not propaganda. Nobody is trying to teach anybody how to live their lives. Videogames are just another form of art that express various ideas and you are not forced to adopt those ideas to your own thinking. They simply allow you to experience that side, a side which you may not have known before, for a certain amount of time. For fuck's sake, if the child in question is playing on a console connected to a television, they are probably spending more time watching children's shows and movies learning their basic morals.

2. FPSs are nothing like real life. Even if it is realistically portrayed you leave out all of the other basic factors. Even if that person learned from a videogame that "killing people is fun" (that person is insane btw) then that person would also need to 1) purchase a weapon/weapons which takes a long time or steal a weapon which is not easy; gun control laws prohibit you from keeping the key or any ammo anywhere near the case/locker in which you keep your weapon and 2) Go to either a remote location away from all civilization (depending on where you live probably a very long drive) or a shooting range which require you to have a gun license which takes a long time to get and requires extensive screening from the police, after which you need to practice for a long time to become good at shooting and used to the effects firearms have on your body. The person in question has months or if he wants to steal a weapon running the risk of getting caught and go in totally unprepared a week at least to change his mind. Even if this crazy idea originated in a video game he must be genuinely insane to stay determined for that long. Video games do not make people insane and are not a good training regiment for mass murder.

3) Surely you must know he didn't mean people would become psychopaths because of Amnesia. He meant that it would affect them because it is terrifying.

4) See my first point. Art is not usually propaganda. It tells stories, it does not force you to agree with everything that is portrayed therein.

You're fanatically convinced if your opinion, to the point where you call science "sensational bullshit". There's no use arguing with you, because your emotions are rationalizing your arguments.
It's not science because at the moment it's highly debatable. Just because someone writes a book about something doesn't mean that book is credible. How about actually quoting some evidence presented in those books? I'm certain there is nothing at all scientific about them. Like I said: Videogame violence can affect people only if they are insane or weak-minded to the point that if you order them to kill someone they will do it without question. At that point anything can make them violent, not just videogames. Videogames are a popular scapegoat in modern media because of the interactive nature of the violence that can take place, completely ignoring any other external influences wholly unrelated to art in general.

Why do I call your "science" sensationalist crap? Because it is not generally accepted by all psychologists or even half of them that violence affects those of sound mind. Give me proof that it is known that violence affects most people, even those with good mental health and a solid moral foundation and I will eat my words. It doesn't matter though because most people are not violent killers and today I would say at least 25% of the Western population plays violent videogames on a regular basis, even kids.
(This post was last modified: 05-19-2012, 10:24 AM by Bridge.)
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Absolute Wuss - by Dusty926 - 05-16-2012, 05:40 PM
RE: Absolute Wuss - by Datguy5 - 05-16-2012, 06:14 PM
RE: Absolute Wuss - by Cranky Old Man - 05-16-2012, 06:20 PM
RE: Absolute Wuss - by cantremember - 05-16-2012, 06:27 PM
RE: Absolute Wuss - by Dusty926 - 05-16-2012, 06:29 PM
RE: Absolute Wuss - by Cranky Old Man - 05-16-2012, 06:37 PM
RE: Absolute Wuss - by Dusty926 - 05-16-2012, 07:10 PM
RE: Absolute Wuss - by Bridge - 05-16-2012, 07:20 PM
RE: Absolute Wuss - by Dusty926 - 05-16-2012, 07:35 PM
RE: Absolute Wuss - by Datguy5 - 05-16-2012, 08:16 PM
RE: Absolute Wuss - by Cranky Old Man - 05-16-2012, 08:20 PM
RE: Absolute Wuss - by Bridge - 05-16-2012, 08:32 PM
RE: Absolute Wuss - by Cranky Old Man - 05-16-2012, 08:48 PM
RE: Absolute Wuss - by Bridge - 05-16-2012, 09:05 PM
RE: Absolute Wuss - by Damascus Rose - 05-16-2012, 09:09 PM
RE: Absolute Wuss - by Bridge - 05-16-2012, 09:12 PM
RE: Absolute Wuss - by Damascus Rose - 05-16-2012, 09:58 PM
RE: Absolute Wuss - by Cranky Old Man - 05-16-2012, 07:48 PM
RE: Absolute Wuss - by Dusty926 - 05-16-2012, 07:52 PM
RE: Absolute Wuss - by Cranky Old Man - 05-16-2012, 08:05 PM
RE: Absolute Wuss - by Bridge - 05-16-2012, 08:10 PM
RE: Absolute Wuss - by cantremember - 05-16-2012, 09:19 PM
RE: Absolute Wuss - by Adny - 05-17-2012, 03:59 AM
RE: Absolute Wuss - by Wooderson - 05-17-2012, 10:36 PM
RE: Absolute Wuss - by Damascus Rose - 05-17-2012, 11:09 PM
RE: Absolute Wuss - by Wooderson - 05-18-2012, 12:01 AM
RE: Absolute Wuss - by Cranky Old Man - 05-18-2012, 12:11 AM
RE: Absolute Wuss - by Kman - 05-18-2012, 12:29 AM
RE: Absolute Wuss - by Arvuti - 05-18-2012, 11:54 AM
RE: Absolute Wuss - by Wooderson - 05-18-2012, 12:52 AM
RE: Absolute Wuss - by Cranky Old Man - 05-18-2012, 01:29 AM
RE: Absolute Wuss - by Wooderson - 05-18-2012, 01:30 AM
RE: Absolute Wuss - by Damascus Rose - 05-18-2012, 03:47 AM
RE: Absolute Wuss - by CrazyShootin - 05-19-2012, 10:25 AM
RE: Absolute Wuss - by Fomzo - 05-19-2012, 12:35 PM
RE: Absolute Wuss - by Juby - 05-19-2012, 02:06 PM
RE: Absolute Wuss - by Bridge - 05-19-2012, 02:11 PM
RE: Absolute Wuss - by Juby - 05-20-2012, 12:20 AM
RE: Absolute Wuss - by nemesis567 - 05-19-2012, 02:57 PM
RE: Absolute Wuss - by Prelauncher - 05-19-2012, 08:37 PM
RE: Absolute Wuss - by Bridge - 05-19-2012, 11:16 PM
RE: Absolute Wuss - by Prelauncher - 05-19-2012, 11:49 PM
RE: Absolute Wuss - by Bridge - 05-20-2012, 01:44 AM
RE: Absolute Wuss - by failedALIAS - 06-27-2012, 11:58 PM
RE: Absolute Wuss - by Alleviant - 05-19-2012, 09:32 PM
RE: Absolute Wuss - by Datguy5 - 05-20-2012, 05:20 PM
RE: Absolute Wuss - by Datzy - 05-22-2012, 01:08 AM
RE: Absolute Wuss - by Statyk - 05-22-2012, 01:49 AM
RE: Absolute Wuss - by Cranky Old Man - 05-22-2012, 08:34 AM
RE: Absolute Wuss - by Prelauncher - 05-22-2012, 09:40 AM
RE: Absolute Wuss - by Cranky Old Man - 05-22-2012, 02:06 PM
RE: Absolute Wuss - by Your Computer - 05-22-2012, 09:00 PM
RE: Absolute Wuss - by Bridge - 05-22-2012, 09:42 PM
RE: Absolute Wuss - by Statyk - 05-22-2012, 11:27 PM
RE: Absolute Wuss - by Hunter of Shadows - 05-24-2012, 05:17 AM
RE: Absolute Wuss - by Bridge - 05-24-2012, 12:34 PM
RE: Absolute Wuss - by Cranky Old Man - 05-24-2012, 12:59 PM
RE: Absolute Wuss - by Hunter of Shadows - 05-24-2012, 04:53 PM
RE: Absolute Wuss - by Prelauncher - 05-24-2012, 05:04 PM
RE: Absolute Wuss - by Hunter of Shadows - 05-24-2012, 07:53 PM
RE: Absolute Wuss - by Datguy5 - 05-25-2012, 10:18 AM
RE: Absolute Wuss - by Tordo - 05-25-2012, 10:27 AM
RE: Absolute Wuss - by Datguy5 - 05-25-2012, 10:39 AM
RE: Absolute Wuss - by Bridge - 05-25-2012, 11:15 AM
RE: Absolute Wuss - by Cranky Old Man - 05-25-2012, 02:36 PM
RE: Absolute Wuss - by Hunter of Shadows - 06-28-2012, 06:51 AM
RE: Absolute Wuss - by MaZiCUT - 06-28-2012, 01:14 PM



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