Thief Gold

[Damascus Rose]

Spoiler below!

i am just going on the absolute Cod cloned mess that they defacated onto the Deus Ex name, and the equally cod cloned pile of rubbish they are now going to mess Hitman up with. I have no faith in Square-Enix's ability to produce a decent game anymore, Even final fantasy Stinks compared to its past glory now, ill put some faith into them when they proove to me without doubt they can still make good games that are worth my money, until then, ill lump them in with activision and EA as casual gaming focussed inepts who will not survive the inevitable games crash. You are only as Good as your last Game.

i dont hate "consoles" per se, ive got a few (NES, SNES, Master System II, Megadrive, 3dO, PS1, PS2, PS3, N64, Saturn, Gamecube, Dreamcast, Gameboy colour, Gameboy Advanced, 3DS, Xbox, and Xbox360), i just hate dumbed down stupid over easy games, no mater what system they are on.

basically, i run a system of "Let me learn! dont hold my hand!", controll hints are not usefull, they are patronising and annoying and unessesary. as far as i am concerned if all you want is an easy ride, then you should just watch a movie! kindly stop ruining gaming! as far as i am concerned the controlls should be shown ONCE! in the optional tutorial level (as was done with half life), and thats it. i dont see what is so downright "difficult" about pressing "Pause" and then looking the controlls up in the manual, or looking at the controll quick reference sheet packaged with the game if you forget the controlls.

sorry, controll hints are just pathetic and patronising, and Unnessesary. i wouldnt be so mad if they were not mandatory, i cant see why the industry cant just spend 5 minuites programming the option to turn the hints OFF so those of us who find them downright patronising dont have to put up with them!

i mean, how hard is it to remember, once you have been shown that, say, pressing triangle next to a door makes your charachter kick it clean off its hinges, really? do you really need to be shown "press triangle to kick the door open" at every single kickable door? surely just having the narattor say "you can kick doors down for a fast entry" in the tutorial and the game putting up a black box that says "to kick open doors, press Triangle". then for the rest of the game, just have a boot icon flash on screen RTCW style when you come to a door you can kick off its hinges. and if you forget the controlls you can always press pause and enter "controlls" to look (i beleive games should have custom controll options again!) or open the manual or look at the "quick reference" sheet providedf with PC games. its far less patronising, but the boot icon still tells you "you can kick this door down" without treating the player like they are an amoeba.

look, ive got learning difficulties, so if anyone should be unable to remember the controlls from door a to door b, its me, but i can remember the controlls, because i read the manual, it is why i feel patronised, i dont need to be shown the controll every single door, i can remember it from the first door, all i need is a "boot" icon to show me i can kick the door off its hinges! i dont like being treated like an amoeba, and i cannot see how you, "normal" people, can tolerate it, i really cant.

sure, hints are fine, often they are nessesary, i just dont see why it has to be "press triangle to open the door", when a "boot" icon will do just as well to show i can boot open the door, because i know its triangle from the tutorial!

Holy hell, I don't even know how many times I've read your posts on all this "cod clone" nonsense, you practically bring it up in every single one. You always bring up this 'inevitable games crash', what the hell do you even mean by that? Also, I haven't experienced a game in which I felt 'patronized' due to the game withholding me some frustration by entering the controls in a hint in the game. I appreciate that, because if there's anything I hate it's having to look up the god damn controls for every single game. I would much rather be playing the game than wasting my damn time with a manual. This is off-topic, but you also just basically repeated what you said in your third paragraph in your fifth, (and it just seems like unnecessary butthurt complaining the second time because you already stated your point). But yeah, I have never had the experience of feeling patronized by control hints in the game and I can't really relate with what you are saying.

I am also not sure anymore how this topic of 'control hints are useless' even came up anymore. But I created this thread to talk about Thief, not this, this isn't even related..