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Quote:How is assuming the existence of a creator to explain how the universe came into being logical, when that in fact is creating something out of nothing?
I think YourComputer's argument was that the creator was not created, but existed forever. But this is impossible because there is no forever. Time had a beginning (Assuming Big Bang theory is true. If the Big Bang is not true then there is no need for a creator as the Universe could exist forever).
However, I agree with your statement. More or less God is a creation out of nothing (Nothing made God).
Quote:There is no evidence supporting the existence of a creator and therefore, if Occam's Razor is adhered to, it is illogical to make any conclusions which are based on that concept. I mean honestly, it's like solving an equation like x=y by assigning an arbitrary value to x!
Again you are absolutely right on this. But I want to point out that we are not trying to prove or disprove the existance of a creator rather than the need for one. And (at least as I view it) there is no need.