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RE: Furguson, Missouri

(08-14-2014, 04:20 PM)Robosprog Wrote:
(08-14-2014, 03:51 PM)MrWhitticus Wrote:
(08-14-2014, 03:40 PM)Robosprog Wrote:
(08-14-2014, 03:34 PM)Kman Wrote:
(08-14-2014, 02:38 PM)Dogfood Wrote: if a white person would be killed, I'm betting the outrage would be 80% lower, just another tragic murder but what can you do...

A black person gets killed though, you get an uproar.

I think it's silly and stupid just like the Zimmerman case (who the murderer wasnt even white but latino)

oh my god dogfood youre generally a cool guy but please shut up

you aren't taking into account the systems of power at play here or the history the police force in america has of police brutality against black people or how incredible disgusting and inhumane the circumstances of this particular case is not to mention the fact that its a BLATANT ACT OF RACISM so yes it fucking matters that he was black

please

stop

"blatant act of racism"
Yet, you only have two differing sides of the story to go with and no actual certainty in regards to the case.
Kman, please, stop. You don't know what actually happened. There has been no conclusive evidence that the kid either was shot just randomly, or if he actually did try and attack the police officer. Of course, the police could have reacted better, but fucking rioting just because a kid was shot and they think it was unjust whilst in reality they weren't there, and there is -no- conclusive evidence is moronic.
Yes, America has a history with this shit. So does England. Guess what, we rioted too when something simillar happened - and was that reaction warranted? No.
England had a history of discrimination against lower class citizens and black citizens, yet, rioting, and looting, was not an appropriate reaction. It never is.
The black community aren't fucking peacefully protesting. This is not helping their case. This is just using the situation as justification for shitty human behaviour. Has it been coming? Sure! Does that make it okay? No!
So, please, Kman, shut up, because you know as much about this as anyone else does - which is fuck all about the truth of what happened.
Wait for a conclusion from the investigation into this before saying this is just blatant racism. Because seriously, right fucking now we have no idea.

I agree with both Robo and Kman's points of views but I just have to point out tht the 'rioting' that Robosprog is saying the protesters have been doing was literally sitting out the front of a police station on their knees with their hands in the air, after which the military police brought in heavy artillery and threatened to maim or kill the protesters.

There have also been many eyewitness accounts and surveillance files released which show that Michael Brown was, in fact, not attacking the policeman at all, and the attack was "brought on" when Brown accidentally knocked the door of the police car as the officer that killed him got out, "harming" the officers leg. The officer then pulled him through the window, shot him in the waist at point blank and allowed him to run some time before shooting him in the chest several times.

As for the racism side of it, I doubt any police officer would drive up to anyone, black or otherwise, yell at them to "get on the fucking sidewalk" and kill them for no reason unless they had been brought up in a society that taught them that a specific group of people were 'dangerous.' Brown had no reason to be assaulted and nothing of this nature has ever surface which happened to a white person, let alone been covered up by the fucking military.

So yes, this is a racial issue.


To your first point:
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That's by no means -just- peaceful protesting. There is a lot of violence going on out there right now, saying they're innocent is wrong.

It's not a racial issue in so far as it, at most, is a corrupt cop. There are eyewitness accounts against him - but hell, this is an area that is two third black. Of course they're going to take the side of the black kid. Add to that, prior tensions, and they're going to not be saying "Oh, yeah, the police officer was defending himself!"
Don't be stupid and believe everything you read, look at the facts, the different articles. This isn't just "poor black kid violently shot by police". This is an area with a history of racial tensions that has suddenly reached tipping point.

I have literally no idea what you're on about for the latter part of your post - it has no relevance to what has been said in the thread. Noone's implied anything like that.

This is a racial issue, sure. But saying "THE WHITE PEOPLE ARE GUILTY AW HELL NAW" is wrong. Noone knows what actually fucking happened right now, and instead of saying "BAD WHITE POLICE, BAD" we should wait for the reports from the investigation to see what actually happened, and if there's still anything dodgy about them.
Until then, all that's being done is people ranting and raving when there's no need too.

I'm not going to argue with the bulk of your issue because it's 2 in the morning and I'm tired but the quote unquote raiding that's been going on is not in defence of Brown but retaliation of the military police attacking them physically.

As I stated, I agree with the last chunk of your article.

*Careless Whisper saxophone solo*
08-14-2014, 04:26 PM
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Furguson, Missouri - by MrWhitticus - 08-14-2014, 01:22 PM
RE: Furguson, Missouri - by Nice - 08-14-2014, 02:38 PM
RE: Furguson, Missouri - by Kman - 08-14-2014, 03:34 PM
RE: Furguson, Missouri - by Nice - 08-14-2014, 03:50 PM
RE: Furguson, Missouri - by i3670 - 08-14-2014, 03:03 PM
RE: Furguson, Missouri - by Nice - 08-14-2014, 04:46 PM
RE: Furguson, Missouri - by MrWhitticus - 08-14-2014, 11:10 PM
RE: Furguson, Missouri - by PutraenusAlivius - 08-14-2014, 04:56 PM
RE: Furguson, Missouri - by Kreekakon - 08-14-2014, 05:23 PM
RE: Furguson, Missouri - by Kreekakon - 08-14-2014, 05:54 PM
RE: Furguson, Missouri - by i3670 - 08-14-2014, 09:07 PM
RE: Furguson, Missouri - by eliasfrost - 08-14-2014, 09:38 PM
RE: Furguson, Missouri - by PutraenusAlivius - 08-15-2014, 04:19 AM
RE: Furguson, Missouri - by MrWhitticus - 08-15-2014, 05:24 AM
RE: Furguson, Missouri - by Wooderson - 08-15-2014, 06:39 AM
RE: Furguson, Missouri - by Statyk - 08-15-2014, 06:42 AM
RE: Furguson, Missouri - by Wooderson - 08-15-2014, 06:48 AM
RE: Furguson, Missouri - by MrWhitticus - 08-15-2014, 11:16 AM
RE: Furguson, Missouri - by Kreekakon - 08-15-2014, 12:43 PM
RE: Furguson, Missouri - by Kman - 08-15-2014, 12:33 PM
RE: Furguson, Missouri - by Kman - 08-15-2014, 02:29 PM
RE: Furguson, Missouri - by Deep One - 08-15-2014, 05:12 PM
RE: Furguson, Missouri - by Kreekakon - 08-15-2014, 03:28 PM
RE: Furguson, Missouri - by Kman - 08-15-2014, 04:32 PM
RE: Furguson, Missouri - by Kman - 08-15-2014, 05:06 PM
RE: Furguson, Missouri - by i3670 - 08-15-2014, 05:15 PM
RE: Furguson, Missouri - by Kman - 08-15-2014, 05:25 PM
RE: Furguson, Missouri - by MrWhitticus - 08-15-2014, 05:39 PM
RE: Furguson, Missouri - by Kman - 08-15-2014, 05:47 PM
RE: Furguson, Missouri - by i3670 - 08-15-2014, 11:05 PM
RE: Furguson, Missouri - by wubwub - 08-15-2014, 11:21 PM
RE: Furguson, Missouri - by Nice - 08-16-2014, 10:01 AM
RE: Furguson, Missouri - by Wooderson - 08-16-2014, 10:29 AM
RE: Furguson, Missouri - by Kman - 08-16-2014, 07:07 PM
RE: Furguson, Missouri - by Kreekakon - 08-16-2014, 07:12 PM
RE: Furguson, Missouri - by Kman - 08-16-2014, 07:40 PM
RE: Furguson, Missouri - by i3670 - 08-16-2014, 07:57 PM
RE: Furguson, Missouri - by CarnivorousJelly - 08-16-2014, 08:43 PM
RE: Furguson, Missouri - by i3670 - 08-16-2014, 08:54 PM
RE: Furguson, Missouri - by Wooderson - 08-17-2014, 05:47 AM
RE: Furguson, Missouri - by Kman - 08-17-2014, 09:15 AM
RE: Furguson, Missouri - by Kman - 08-17-2014, 11:47 AM
RE: Furguson, Missouri - by Wooderson - 08-17-2014, 12:13 PM
RE: Furguson, Missouri - by Kman - 08-18-2014, 07:01 AM
RE: Furguson, Missouri - by MrWhitticus - 08-18-2014, 08:06 AM
RE: Furguson, Missouri - by Nice - 08-19-2014, 09:46 AM
RE: Furguson, Missouri - by MrWhitticus - 08-19-2014, 10:36 AM
RE: Furguson, Missouri - by Nice - 08-19-2014, 10:42 AM
RE: Furguson, Missouri - by Wooderson - 08-19-2014, 10:58 AM
RE: Furguson, Missouri - by MrWhitticus - 08-19-2014, 11:02 AM
RE: Furguson, Missouri - by Kman - 08-19-2014, 12:02 PM
RE: Furguson, Missouri - by Nice - 08-19-2014, 12:25 PM
RE: Furguson, Missouri - by MrWhitticus - 08-19-2014, 12:59 PM
RE: Furguson, Missouri - by Nice - 08-19-2014, 01:28 PM
RE: Furguson, Missouri - by Kreekakon - 08-19-2014, 01:41 PM
RE: Furguson, Missouri - by MrWhitticus - 08-19-2014, 02:10 PM
RE: Furguson, Missouri - by Kreekakon - 08-19-2014, 02:17 PM
RE: Furguson, Missouri - by MrWhitticus - 08-19-2014, 02:21 PM
RE: Furguson, Missouri - by Nice - 08-19-2014, 02:39 PM
RE: Furguson, Missouri - by Kman - 08-19-2014, 02:54 PM
RE: Furguson, Missouri - by Nice - 08-19-2014, 02:57 PM
RE: Furguson, Missouri - by Kman - 08-19-2014, 03:00 PM
RE: Furguson, Missouri - by MrWhitticus - 08-19-2014, 03:08 PM
RE: Furguson, Missouri - by Nice - 08-19-2014, 03:19 PM
RE: Furguson, Missouri - by MrWhitticus - 08-19-2014, 03:23 PM
RE: Furguson, Missouri - by Ashtoreth - 08-19-2014, 04:05 PM
RE: Furguson, Missouri - by Kreekakon - 08-19-2014, 12:49 PM
RE: Furguson, Missouri - by Kman - 08-19-2014, 02:01 PM
RE: Furguson, Missouri - by Kreekakon - 08-19-2014, 02:29 PM
RE: Furguson, Missouri - by MrWhitticus - 08-19-2014, 02:32 PM
RE: Furguson, Missouri - by Potato - 08-19-2014, 02:36 PM
RE: Furguson, Missouri - by Wooderson - 08-19-2014, 02:37 PM
RE: Furguson, Missouri - by MrWhitticus - 08-19-2014, 02:39 PM
RE: Furguson, Missouri - by eliasfrost - 08-19-2014, 02:59 PM
RE: Furguson, Missouri - by Nice - 08-19-2014, 03:06 PM
RE: Furguson, Missouri - by Mechavomit - 08-19-2014, 03:21 PM
RE: Furguson, Missouri - by MrWhitticus - 08-19-2014, 03:34 PM
RE: Furguson, Missouri - by Deep One - 08-19-2014, 03:49 PM
RE: Furguson, Missouri - by Red - 08-19-2014, 03:48 PM
RE: Furguson, Missouri - by Kman - 08-20-2014, 12:20 AM
RE: Furguson, Missouri - by Kman - 08-20-2014, 12:59 AM
RE: Furguson, Missouri - by CarnivorousJelly - 08-20-2014, 01:03 AM
RE: Furguson, Missouri - by Kman - 08-20-2014, 01:08 AM
RE: Furguson, Missouri - by Adny - 08-20-2014, 01:42 AM
RE: Furguson, Missouri - by Newsman Waterpaper - 08-20-2014, 01:03 AM
RE: Furguson, Missouri - by Slanderous - 08-20-2014, 03:03 AM
RE: Furguson, Missouri - by Kman - 08-20-2014, 03:11 AM
RE: Furguson, Missouri - by Kman - 08-20-2014, 03:46 AM
RE: Furguson, Missouri - by Kman - 08-20-2014, 04:30 AM
RE: Furguson, Missouri - by PutraenusAlivius - 08-20-2014, 04:43 AM
RE: Furguson, Missouri - by MrWhitticus - 08-20-2014, 08:03 AM
RE: Furguson, Missouri - by Kman - 08-20-2014, 11:22 AM
RE: Furguson, Missouri - by Wooderson - 08-20-2014, 02:57 PM
RE: Furguson, Missouri - by Wooderson - 08-20-2014, 03:33 PM
RE: Furguson, Missouri - by MrWhitticus - 08-20-2014, 03:36 PM
RE: Furguson, Missouri - by Froge - 08-20-2014, 04:12 PM
RE: Furguson, Missouri - by Nice - 08-20-2014, 04:14 PM
RE: Furguson, Missouri - by Wooderson - 08-20-2014, 04:30 PM
RE: Furguson, Missouri - by Wooderson - 08-20-2014, 04:45 PM
RE: Furguson, Missouri - by Kreekakon - 08-20-2014, 05:04 PM
RE: Furguson, Missouri - by Wooderson - 08-20-2014, 05:47 PM
RE: Furguson, Missouri - by Statyk - 08-21-2014, 02:52 AM
RE: Furguson, Missouri - by Wooderson - 08-21-2014, 12:28 PM
RE: Furguson, Missouri - by i3670 - 08-21-2014, 12:00 PM
RE: Furguson, Missouri - by Nice - 08-21-2014, 12:08 PM
RE: Furguson, Missouri - by eliasfrost - 08-21-2014, 06:10 PM
RE: Furguson, Missouri - by i3670 - 08-21-2014, 11:54 PM
RE: Furguson, Missouri - by Kman - 08-21-2014, 11:58 PM
RE: Furguson, Missouri - by i3670 - 08-22-2014, 12:11 AM
RE: Furguson, Missouri - by Froge - 08-22-2014, 12:13 AM
RE: Furguson, Missouri - by Kman - 08-22-2014, 12:15 AM
RE: Furguson, Missouri - by i3670 - 08-22-2014, 12:19 AM
RE: Furguson, Missouri - by eliasfrost - 08-22-2014, 12:44 AM
RE: Furguson, Missouri - by Kman - 08-22-2014, 12:46 AM
RE: Furguson, Missouri - by eliasfrost - 08-22-2014, 01:57 AM
RE: Furguson, Missouri - by Nice - 08-22-2014, 08:32 AM
RE: Furguson, Missouri - by i3670 - 08-22-2014, 08:47 AM
RE: Furguson, Missouri - by Kman - 08-22-2014, 09:36 AM
RE: Furguson, Missouri - by Nice - 08-22-2014, 09:40 AM
RE: Furguson, Missouri - by Kman - 08-22-2014, 09:44 AM
RE: Furguson, Missouri - by Wooderson - 08-22-2014, 12:30 PM
RE: Furguson, Missouri - by CorinthianMerchant - 08-22-2014, 01:15 PM
RE: Furguson, Missouri - by Wooderson - 08-22-2014, 01:40 PM
RE: Furguson, Missouri - by Nice - 08-22-2014, 01:28 PM
RE: Furguson, Missouri - by Kman - 08-22-2014, 02:21 PM
RE: Furguson, Missouri - by Magnum Opus - 08-22-2014, 01:47 PM
RE: Furguson, Missouri - by Kreekakon - 08-22-2014, 02:30 PM



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