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RE: Anti-Gay Concentration Camps

Quote:We are in the non-gaming subforum. We can talk about what our favorite varieties of scented candles are here.
Sure, but there's a huge difference between harmless discussions and bitter arguments about things like this. Argument is only healthy if it produces mutually positive results, and as I've said before, largely subjective arguments like this never end well for anyone.

Quote:You have no proof that homosexuality is immoral, yet you believe it is. The most you can probably muster (though I have no idea how much you care about the following things) is probably that gay people are slightly more prone to transmitting STDs due to the fragile nature of the bumbum, and that gay people cannot actually genetically produce babies.
Meanwhile I have plenty of firsthand experience to say that it is completely okay to be gay. I am gay, but I can't think of one negative personality trait of mine that has anything to do with me liking men. I am completely harmless and will never harm another human being unless I am defending myself from some sort of physical attack.
To me, immorality has more to do than natural consequence on this earth. I don't care whether you ever carry a disease in your lifetime for being gay, I will always believe you and other gays are wrong for doing this.

Like I said before, you have your views on this matter, and the fact that you yourself are gay will certainly ground your beliefs on that issue. I will not attempt to change your views, because even if I could, it would not be worth my time and most likely would have no effect on you. Nevertheless, I will not change my own views on this matter, no matter what you say to me or how loud you say it.

That said, it should be pretty clear to you that this argument should not continue.

Quote:Read my posts again: while my last post was rather heated, when was I being intolerant? Please quote me.
Let me make it clear that while you may wholeheartedly accept the fact that some people lead a gay lifestyle, that is not tolerance. You believe that everything they do is right and justifiable; you're not "tolerating" them, you're in 100% agreement with them on everything; the only difference between them and you is that you are personally different on the more physical matters of the issue. You all share the same thinking about homosexuality. How can you be simply "tolerating" something when you are actually in total agreement with it?

Contrast that with me. I am 100% opposed to the gay lifestyle. Nevertheless, I live in a society that has begun to completely embrace it. Believe it or not, I am not very vocal about this and tend to keep to myself. My older brother once worked at a Steak & Shake restaurant which was mostly staffed by gay men, and despite our shared dislike of homosexuals, he stuck it out for several months until he quit for various reasons (S&S is really a terrible place to work). Concerning the homos he worked with, he put up no fuss, held no protests, and did not raise any issues about them, despite their obvious ideological differences. That is the true definition of tolerance.

So when I briefly mention that I oppose a certain ideology, hold certain political beliefs, or announce my support for a way of thinking that happens to be contrary to what you are used to, and then you all explode in my face for doing just that... Are you being tolerant? The answer is simply No.

05-31-2011, 09:58 PM
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Anti-Gay Concentration Camps - by samusaran253 - 05-29-2011, 07:37 AM
RE: Anti-Gay Concentration Camps - by Danny Boy - 05-29-2011, 10:37 AM
RE: Anti-Gay Concentration Camps - by laser50 - 05-29-2011, 10:38 AM
RE: Anti-Gay Concentration Camps - by Xanatos - 05-29-2011, 11:18 AM
RE: Anti-Gay Concentration Camps - by eliasfrost - 05-29-2011, 12:04 PM
RE: Anti-Gay Concentration Camps - by Tanshaydar - 05-29-2011, 12:35 PM
RE: Anti-Gay Concentration Camps - by eliasfrost - 05-30-2011, 07:25 AM
RE: Anti-Gay Concentration Camps - by Xss - 05-29-2011, 02:40 PM
RE: Anti-Gay Concentration Camps - by laser50 - 05-29-2011, 03:52 PM
RE: Anti-Gay Concentration Camps - by Sexbad - 05-29-2011, 05:56 PM
RE: Anti-Gay Concentration Camps - by gandalf91 - 05-30-2011, 01:04 PM
RE: Anti-Gay Concentration Camps - by Sexbad - 05-29-2011, 09:41 PM
RE: Anti-Gay Concentration Camps - by Redeemer - 05-30-2011, 03:19 PM
RE: Anti-Gay Concentration Camps - by Sexbad - 05-30-2011, 05:56 PM
RE: Anti-Gay Concentration Camps - by Karai16 - 05-30-2011, 07:53 PM
RE: Anti-Gay Concentration Camps - by Gharren - 05-30-2011, 09:26 PM
RE: Anti-Gay Concentration Camps - by gandalf91 - 05-30-2011, 09:54 PM
RE: Anti-Gay Concentration Camps - by Xss - 05-30-2011, 10:59 PM
RE: Anti-Gay Concentration Camps - by Redeemer - 05-31-2011, 02:22 AM
RE: Anti-Gay Concentration Camps - by Xss - 05-31-2011, 03:35 AM
RE: Anti-Gay Concentration Camps - by Redeemer - 05-31-2011, 04:10 AM
RE: Anti-Gay Concentration Camps - by Sexbad - 05-31-2011, 04:44 AM
RE: Anti-Gay Concentration Camps - by Xss - 05-31-2011, 06:42 AM
RE: Anti-Gay Concentration Camps - by Sexbad - 05-31-2011, 11:01 AM
RE: Anti-Gay Concentration Camps - by Gharren - 05-31-2011, 07:57 PM
RE: Anti-Gay Concentration Camps - by Sexbad - 05-31-2011, 08:00 PM
RE: Anti-Gay Concentration Camps - by Tanshaydar - 05-31-2011, 11:14 AM
RE: Anti-Gay Concentration Camps - by Xss - 05-31-2011, 05:13 PM
RE: Anti-Gay Concentration Camps - by Redeemer - 05-31-2011, 09:58 PM
RE: Anti-Gay Concentration Camps - by Gharren - 05-31-2011, 11:14 PM
RE: Anti-Gay Concentration Camps - by Sexbad - 05-31-2011, 11:47 PM
RE: Anti-Gay Concentration Camps - by Redeemer - 05-31-2011, 10:18 PM
RE: Anti-Gay Concentration Camps - by graykin - 06-01-2011, 02:03 AM
RE: Anti-Gay Concentration Camps - by Xss - 06-01-2011, 06:38 AM



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