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RE: POLITICS

@Cuyir,

I agree that a lot of violence would erupt out of the government abruptly retracting itself, but that's because there are so many people who are dependent on the government at this point. Whether you or I want the government to close, however, it's going to happen. They're going to run out of money eventually, and in the case of the U.S. they've been printing and borrowing like crazy to make it seem like it hasn't already happened. It seems like other countries are following a similar path so this destruction is really global. When people stop getting their food stamps, or welfare checks, or social security checks, and all government employees are let off, you're going to see a lot of riots, and that's when the govt. will pull out the big guns and take defensive strategies against pissed off hungry citizens. Then people will REALLY see the violence inherent in the system; when they're shooting poor and dependent people.

Saying the government prevents chaos is as stupid as saying it progresses society. It's a 10,000 year old concept that has remained relatively the same with exception to its inheritance of new things from the free market. No progress has ever come out of a government and no progress ever will. And this is obvious because the government doesn't actually PRODUCE anything. The government takes wealth from others and uses it in their self interest.


And my argument against governments is fundamentally a moral one. We're in the 19th century. I'm arguing against slavery. You're telling me "Yeah, I don't like slavery, but you learn to live with it because just IMAGINE what would happen if we didn't have slaves doing field work. I'm not saying we should worship slavery, but find a middle ground."

The government is predicated on the initiation of force. What you're worried about happening if a government ceased? People initiating the use of force. See how that's a little contradictory?

The point of anarchism isn't to get rid of what's old and make actual progress. It's to give people freedom, which has historically been the only thing that has led any kind of progress.
(This post was last modified: 11-08-2013, 06:44 AM by SchnidlersLeest.)
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POLITICS - by Froge - 08-16-2012, 11:26 PM
RE: POLITICS - by Damascus Rose - 08-16-2012, 11:27 PM
RE: POLITICS - by Adny - 08-16-2012, 11:30 PM
RE: POLITICS - by Froge - 08-16-2012, 11:45 PM
RE: POLITICS - by Adny - 08-16-2012, 11:48 PM
RE: POLITICS - by CorinthianMerchant - 08-16-2012, 11:52 PM
RE: POLITICS - by Obliviator27 - 08-16-2012, 11:49 PM
RE: POLITICS - by Froge - 08-16-2012, 11:51 PM
RE: POLITICS - by Bridge - 08-16-2012, 11:56 PM
RE: POLITICS - by failedALIAS - 08-17-2012, 01:53 AM
RE: POLITICS - by spukrian - 08-18-2012, 05:08 PM
RE: POLITICS - by Your Computer - 08-17-2012, 12:23 AM
RE: POLITICS - by Froge - 08-17-2012, 12:38 AM
RE: POLITICS - by Adny - 08-17-2012, 12:41 AM
RE: POLITICS - by Damascus Rose - 08-17-2012, 12:50 AM
RE: POLITICS - by Adny - 08-17-2012, 01:14 AM
RE: POLITICS - by Kman - 08-17-2012, 02:07 AM
RE: POLITICS - by Damascus Rose - 08-17-2012, 02:11 AM
RE: POLITICS - by Froge - 08-17-2012, 01:06 AM
RE: POLITICS - by Prelauncher - 08-17-2012, 01:44 AM
RE: POLITICS - by failedALIAS - 08-17-2012, 02:12 AM
RE: POLITICS - by Prelauncher - 08-17-2012, 02:24 AM
RE: POLITICS - by Adny - 08-17-2012, 02:25 AM
RE: POLITICS - by Prelauncher - 08-17-2012, 02:32 AM
RE: POLITICS - by failedALIAS - 08-17-2012, 02:33 AM
RE: POLITICS - by Danny Boy - 08-17-2012, 02:48 AM
RE: POLITICS - by Sexbad - 08-19-2012, 08:31 PM
RE: POLITICS - by Ghieri - 08-23-2012, 01:15 AM
RE: POLITICS - by xPICKLEMONSTER - 08-23-2012, 01:37 AM
RE: POLITICS - by Kman - 08-23-2012, 02:04 AM
RE: POLITICS - by Paddy™ - 11-03-2013, 07:56 AM
RE: POLITICS - by Juby - 08-24-2012, 01:20 PM
RE: POLITICS - by CorinthianMerchant - 10-28-2012, 10:58 PM
RE: POLITICS - by failedALIAS - 10-29-2012, 12:04 AM
RE: POLITICS - by rji - 10-29-2012, 12:33 AM
RE: POLITICS - by Alex Ros - 10-29-2012, 01:20 AM
RE: POLITICS - by MyRedNeptune - 10-29-2012, 10:00 PM
RE: POLITICS - by bloogleford - 10-29-2012, 08:06 PM
RE: POLITICS - by The chaser - 10-29-2012, 10:05 PM
RE: POLITICS - by Froge - 11-03-2013, 06:55 AM
RE: POLITICS - by Paddy™ - 11-03-2013, 07:03 AM
RE: POLITICS - by Froge - 11-03-2013, 07:17 AM
RE: POLITICS - by Ashtoreth - 11-03-2013, 07:47 AM
RE: POLITICS - by TheWalshinator - 11-03-2013, 07:49 AM
RE: POLITICS - by CarnivorousJelly - 11-03-2013, 08:47 AM
RE: POLITICS - by PutraenusAlivius - 11-03-2013, 09:14 AM
RE: POLITICS - by CarnivorousJelly - 11-03-2013, 09:57 AM
RE: POLITICS - by Ghieri - 11-03-2013, 11:56 AM
RE: POLITICS - by Nice - 11-03-2013, 12:00 PM
RE: POLITICS - by Cuyir - 11-03-2013, 02:46 PM
RE: POLITICS - by Deep One - 11-03-2013, 03:10 PM
RE: POLITICS - by CarnivorousJelly - 11-04-2013, 01:49 AM
RE: POLITICS - by Change - 11-04-2013, 08:45 AM
RE: POLITICS - by HorrorElementFilms - 11-04-2013, 10:19 PM
RE: POLITICS - by Alardem - 11-04-2013, 10:29 PM
RE: POLITICS - by i3670 - 11-04-2013, 11:17 PM
RE: POLITICS - by Froge - 11-04-2013, 11:20 PM
RE: POLITICS - by i3670 - 11-04-2013, 11:25 PM
RE: POLITICS - by Froge - 11-04-2013, 11:30 PM
RE: POLITICS - by i3670 - 11-04-2013, 11:41 PM
RE: POLITICS - by Froge - 11-04-2013, 11:51 PM
RE: POLITICS - by i3670 - 11-04-2013, 11:56 PM
RE: POLITICS - by Bridge - 11-05-2013, 12:08 AM
RE: POLITICS - by i3670 - 11-05-2013, 12:11 AM
RE: POLITICS - by Froge - 11-05-2013, 12:15 AM
RE: POLITICS - by SchnidlersLeest - 11-05-2013, 04:04 AM
RE: POLITICS - by Kman - 11-05-2013, 09:26 AM
RE: POLITICS - by SchnidlersLeest - 11-05-2013, 09:38 AM
RE: POLITICS - by Kman - 11-06-2013, 12:58 AM
RE: POLITICS - by Froge - 11-05-2013, 04:07 AM
RE: POLITICS - by SchnidlersLeest - 11-05-2013, 04:11 AM
RE: POLITICS - by Alardem - 11-05-2013, 05:36 AM
RE: POLITICS - by SchnidlersLeest - 11-05-2013, 06:49 AM
RE: POLITICS - by Ghieri - 11-05-2013, 03:27 PM
RE: POLITICS - by Froge - 11-05-2013, 07:06 AM
RE: POLITICS - by Lewk - 11-05-2013, 11:46 AM
RE: POLITICS - by Ashtoreth - 11-05-2013, 07:10 AM
RE: POLITICS - by Cuyir - 11-05-2013, 07:49 PM
RE: POLITICS - by SchnidlersLeest - 11-07-2013, 10:37 AM
RE: POLITICS - by i3670 - 11-05-2013, 10:51 AM
RE: POLITICS - by SchnidlersLeest - 11-05-2013, 11:08 AM
RE: POLITICS - by i3670 - 11-05-2013, 11:29 PM
RE: POLITICS - by Cuyir - 11-06-2013, 01:33 AM
RE: POLITICS - by Alardem - 11-06-2013, 12:59 AM
RE: POLITICS - by Nice - 11-06-2013, 02:14 PM
RE: POLITICS - by CarnivorousJelly - 11-07-2013, 06:51 AM
RE: POLITICS - by Ghieri - 11-07-2013, 05:18 PM
RE: POLITICS - by SchnidlersLeest - 11-07-2013, 05:43 PM
RE: POLITICS - by Ghieri - 11-07-2013, 06:44 PM
RE: POLITICS - by SchnidlersLeest - 11-07-2013, 08:25 PM
RE: POLITICS - by Wooderson - 11-07-2013, 08:50 PM
RE: POLITICS - by Cuyir - 11-07-2013, 11:17 PM
RE: POLITICS - by SchnidlersLeest - 11-08-2013, 06:42 AM
RE: POLITICS - by Ghieri - 11-08-2013, 12:17 AM
RE: POLITICS - by Alardem - 11-08-2013, 12:39 AM
RE: POLITICS - by i3670 - 11-08-2013, 01:24 AM
RE: POLITICS - by Paddy™ - 11-08-2013, 07:37 AM
RE: POLITICS - by SchnidlersLeest - 11-08-2013, 08:28 AM
RE: POLITICS - by Paddy™ - 11-08-2013, 10:27 AM
RE: POLITICS - by SchnidlersLeest - 11-08-2013, 10:40 AM
RE: POLITICS - by Paddy™ - 11-08-2013, 04:40 PM
RE: POLITICS - by SchnidlersLeest - 11-08-2013, 04:45 PM
RE: POLITICS - by Cuyir - 11-08-2013, 02:58 PM
RE: POLITICS - by SchnidlersLeest - 11-08-2013, 04:05 PM
RE: POLITICS - by Nice - 11-08-2013, 03:16 PM
RE: POLITICS - by Cuyir - 11-08-2013, 03:34 PM
RE: POLITICS - by Cuyir - 11-08-2013, 10:44 PM
RE: POLITICS - by SchnidlersLeest - 11-09-2013, 12:41 AM



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