PS4 Revealed

[eliasfrost]

You are too biased to even further a good discussion DarkSide, sorry to tell you but that's how it is, you can't have an objective discussion without throwing your unrelated personal preferences in there, and it's getting really annoying.

look at EA or Activision, the same game, over and over, rushed out, full of bugs, baseline playable due to all the glitches, only gets a good review because the publisher paid for it

Interplay made buggy games, black isle did buggy games, troica made buggy games. And they were all the same (semi-turnbased isometric RPGs), so you are telling me that they suck?

500 tons of DLC at 8 pounds a pack, despite the fact all the content is on disk and has technically already been purchased...what is that if its not greed?

Tell me, how many times have this happened? You know what, less than 10 times since forever and people have been bitching about it all over the world (and rightfully so). You are exaggerating the problem to easier pound your point through and it make you look silly, because everyone knows you're downright misinformed.

also. designing a game isn't difficult,. ive "designed" several, its programming them thats the swine, and seeing as most of todays developers are too damn lazy to do anything but rush out a quick and nasty clone of a certain massive selling warfare franchise, your design often gets thrown out the window for something that would be easier for there lazy designers to programme and cheaper for them to make, so the publisher can fleece more money from the punters via Overpriced map pack DLC, wich is actually just a code to unlock multiplayer maps, already on disk, based around 5 or 6 rooms of an SP level, again, greed.

The devs want to make good games, but the publishers are pushing them back with time restrains and limited creative freedom, you are once again mixing things up, I'm suprised you don't understand that very basic concept (that have been a problem in the entertainment business for decades and decades) considering you are supposedly making games.

sorry bridge, ive HAD real life dealings with games publishers, trying to get them to "lease" an IP, with no results, as it "wouldnt appeal to american console players" (GENUINE publisher reaction from a canadian company whos name starts with U!) despite the lease clearly saying the IP has to be PC exclusive owing to console controllers not having enough contrill functions. its just they look at the sales of Black Ops and think "consoles=sales record" without stopping to think about the fact the Console MMS genre is oversaturated to the point of collapse.

*cough*Kickstarter*couch*, or Publish the game yourself Online.

I have seen with my own eyes just how greedy they are, if it isnt going to give them at least 2 billion bucks in profit, they dont want to know. you dont need 2 billion bucks in profit. thats just greed. 40,000,000 is more than enough, the average AAA game costs only 8-10 million bucks to make... thats still a good 30 million bucks profit! and you can get that with only 1 million steam sales at $40 a copy!. even an indie 2d platformer can overtake that number!

You seem very naive to think that a big company will publish a game made by some dude they've never heard before (and don't have a recognizable name even in the indie industry) and throw a lot of money on something that will most likely not give them any profit in return, and then to call them greedy? You sir, don't understand how business work, times have changed, old time FPS is not wanted by todays standard. But if you desperatly want your games to be out there, then go ahead and publish it yourself and promote it on forums and sites. Crying over a publishers because they don't want to throw their money on something that won't give them money in return is extremely ignorant.