Disappointed with AAMFP

[SurvivalHorror]

Everyone please try to manage your quoting better. It makes the forums really hard to read if there's quote trains everywhere, and I'd hate having to go, and edit all your posts when I see some get out of hand.

Most great narratives do have a twist if you look carefully. Makes the experience much more memorable.

It may be so, but in the fundamental sense of a good story a plot twist is not one required to make a good story. Just as good stories can be done by sending the characters through an engaging journey that you know clearly everybody's agenda from the very start. Drive the plot using character interactions, emotions, and well-written dialogue that reflects character traits well. Doing that can be just as good as using plot twists.

It's actually been noted by some people in the movie industry, though I think it applies to any media with a plot, that they dislike certain stories which rely on mystery, and keeping the audience in the dark until the plot twist as their way of intriguing them. Many believe that just as good stories, or even superior stories can be written through character traits, their interactions, and personal goals...all of which carries the story until the very end.

I actually don't agree completely with that notion, but I do definitely believe that stories do not need plot twists to be extremely engaging, and it's even worse if you try to shoehorn one in just for the sake of forced intrigue based off of the audience not knowing everything.

Example: The Last of Us. For people who've played that game quickly think the whole thing through. There are unexpected moments true, but are there any truly radical changes in plot which could be considered a plot twist? At least I don't recall any ones radical enough to be considered a massive twist. Instead it mainly carries itself through the use of character development as well as their changing interactions.

Great example using the last of us. I felt the game really developed an emotional connection which made the narrative more engaging and meaningful. It was one of those rare gems of a game that aroused interest without an effective but clichéd twist. However, in my opinion AMFP was unable to pull that off and they might have been better off using the good old convenient twist.

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LMAO.

Because TCR changed the gameplay sooooooooo much in AMFP. Oh man.

And The Tomb Raider reboot is still a Tomb Raider game in heart and in name, but hey who cares about that when you can piss and moan about anything?

Just wow, now I know what AMFP is up against, and knowing is half the battle.

*G.I Joe Jingle*

And a story built on a silly, stupid, unnecessary twist in which the writer (s) wittingly hide elements in a very clumsy and haphazard way, just so they can then pull the curtain and go ''WHAT A TWIST'' is a terrible one. There's a difference between being ambiguous and ''that''. Kreekakon's example is spot on. The Last Of Us isn't built around a gimmicky twist, it's built around the world after the disaster and the relationships of Joel and Ellie and the people they meet.

Whining about knowing that Mandus' kids were dead and bla bla bla is moot when that's not the point of the story. Dearie me people, i'd expect more out of people that have played through FG's games (I assume).

I'd much much much much much much rather have ZERO ''WHAT A TWEEEST'' moments in a novel or game and instead have a well thought out, written, emotional and impactful story.

The gameplay change e.g. lack of inventory, wasn't really the problem. The problem was that the focus and hence experience delivered by the game was totally and more importantly, deceptively changed, from survival horror into interactive novel. Perhaps I am able to concede that a twist is not absolutely necessary for a memorable adventure, but AMFP wasn't one of those rare masterpieces which delivered an experience similar to the last of us, FAR from it . The story seemed terribly linear and obvious(knowing the kids were dead for example) I don't understand why you insist that this doesn't detract from the narrative, when it clearly does. You know what AMFP is up against? why do you insist on grouping the negative reviewers as simpletons unable to understand or appreciate the story? This only serves to show your ignorance to us all. If this were such a masterpiece of a game why would most(imo) of us be struggling to find value in it? Look at the last of us? any heated debate over whether the game was good over there? I'd wager not. You talk about emotional experience, but there was no real sadness after realizing Mandus had sacrificed his children Aztec style, because of a lack of emotional development between the gamer and Mandus, as well as the children.