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No Amnesia Folder 
			 
			
				Hello, 
I saw from another thread that the hpl.log file should be found in ~/Library/Application Support/Frictional Games/Amnesia. I'm trying to find the log file to troubleshoot why Amnesia isn't launching. I've checked and I have an NVidia graphics card but there's no Frictional Games or Amnesia folder in my Application Support folder. 
 
Does anyone know why? Is there some other location to check? 
 
The only thing I have to go on so far is the Console output: 
11-10-29 9:48:00 AM com.apple.launchd.peruser.501[102] ([0x0-0x26026].com.frictionalgames.AmnesiaSteamLauncher[295]) Exited with exit code: 255 
 
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RE: No Amnesia Folder 
			 
			
				This is rather strange. Can you provide some more details on your system? 
- What System are you using (Macbook Pro, Imac?)
 
- What year is the system (e.g. 2008 )
 
- What OS is it running (Leopard, Snow Leopard, Lion), with the exact version.
 
- Which exact video card do you have?
  
This information can be found by choosing "about this mac" from the apple menu and choosing "More Info..." 
Do other steam applications work? or it is ONLY Amnesia that is not working?
			  
			
			
 
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	| 10-29-2011, 07:56 PM  | 
	
		
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RE: No Amnesia Folder 
			 
			
				 (10-29-2011, 07:56 PM)Urkle Wrote:  This is rather strange. Can you provide some more details on your system? 
- What System are you using (Macbook Pro, Imac?)
 
- What year is the system (e.g. 2008 )
 
- What OS is it running (Leopard, Snow Leopard, Lion), with the exact version.
 
- Which exact video card do you have?
  
This information can be found by choosing "about this mac" from the apple menu and choosing "More Info..." 
Do other steam applications work? or it is ONLY Amnesia that is not working? Thank you for the quick response. Here is the information you requested: 
Model Name: MacBook Pro 
Model Identifier: MacBookPro3,1 
Processor Name: Intel Core 2 Duo 
Processor Speed: 2.4 GHz 
Number Of Processors: 1 
Total Number Of Cores: 2 
L2 Cache: 4 MB 
Memory: 2 GB 
Bus Speed: 800 MHz 
I couldn't determine the year of the system. 
I'm running Snow Leopard (10.6.8)
 
Chipset Model: GeForce 8600M GT  
Type: GPU 
Bus: PCIe 
PCIe Lane Width: x16 
VRAM (Total): 256 MB 
Vendor: NVIDIA (0x10de) 
Device ID: 0x0407 
Revision ID: 0x00a1
			  
			
			
			
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RE: No Amnesia Folder 
			 
			
				This is starting to look like an issue with steam. 
 
So, first have you restarted steam? 
 
Have you restarted your computer? 
 
Have you tried verifying that amnesia downloaded correctly from steam? You can check this by right clicking ( control click) on amnesia in steam and looking for the verify local cache. 
 
Lastly, have you tried deleting and reinstalling steam?
			 
			
			
 
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	| 10-29-2011, 09:06 PM  | 
	
		
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RE: No Amnesia Folder 
			 
			
				 (10-29-2011, 09:06 PM)Urkle Wrote:  This is starting to look like an issue with steam. 
 
So, first have you restarted steam? 
 
Have you restarted your computer? 
 
Have you tried verifying that amnesia downloaded correctly from steam? You can check this by right clicking ( control click) on amnesia in steam and looking for the verify local cache. 
 
Lastly, have you tried deleting and reinstalling steam? I've now done all of those things in that order.
 
I should mention that Penumbra: Overture seems to work, though I haven't played it.
			  
			
			
			
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				Can you copy/paste the entries from the console log related to steam as well as Amnesia? 
			 
			
			
 
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				 (10-31-2011, 04:38 PM)Urkle Wrote:  Can you copy/paste the entries from the console log related to steam as well as Amnesia? This may be more than you're looking for but here are the console log entries:
 11-11-04 10:39:38 AM [0x0-0x51051].com.valvesoftware.steam[671] found breakpad via in process memory: '/Applications/Steam.app/Contents/MacOS/osx32/../Frameworks/Breakpad.framework/Versions/A/Resources' 
11-11-04 10:39:38 AM [0x0-0x51051].com.valvesoftware.steam[671] Installing breakpad crash handler 
11-11-04 10:39:38 AM [0x0-0x51051].com.valvesoftware.steam[671] Assert( Assertion Failed: Looks like steam didn't shutdown cleanly, scheduling immediate update check ):/Users/buildbot/buildslave_steam/steam_rel_client_osx/build/src/steamexe/./main.cpp:325 
11-11-04 10:39:38 AM [0x0-0x51051].com.valvesoftware.steam[671] SteamID: 0, universe Public 
11-11-04 10:39:44 AM [0x0-0x51051].com.valvesoftware.steam[671] SteamID: 0, universe Public 
11-11-04 10:39:45 AM [0x0-0x51051].com.valvesoftware.steam[671] SteamID: 0, universe Public 
11-11-04 10:39:45 AM [0x0-0x51051].com.valvesoftware.steam[671] SteamID: 0, universe Public 
11-11-04 10:39:45 AM [0x0-0x51051].com.valvesoftware.steam[671] SteamID: 0, universe Public 
11-11-04 10:39:50 AM [0x0-0x51051].com.valvesoftware.steam[671] SteamID: 0, universe Public 
11-11-04 10:40:06 AM [0x0-0x51051].com.valvesoftware.steam[671] found breakpad via in process memory: '/Applications/Steam.app/Contents/MacOS/osx32/../Frameworks/Breakpad.framework/Versions/A/Resources' 
11-11-04 10:40:06 AM [0x0-0x51051].com.valvesoftware.steam[671] Installing breakpad crash handler 
11-11-04 10:40:06 AM com.apple.launchd.peruser.501[105] (0x100103840.mach_init.Inspector) The following job tried to hijack the service "com.Breakpad.Inspector677" from this job: 0x100214ee0.mach_init.Inspector 
11-11-04 10:40:06 AM [0x0-0x51051].com.valvesoftware.steam[671] unlinked 0 orphaned pipes 
11-11-04 10:40:10 AM [0x0-0x51051].com.valvesoftware.steam[671] SteamID: 0, universe Public 
11-11-04 10:40:10 AM [0x0-0x51051].com.valvesoftware.steam[671] SteamID: 0, universe Public 
11-11-04 10:40:11 AM [0x0-0x51051].com.valvesoftware.steam[671] Failed to load Steam Service 
11-11-04 10:40:11 AM [0x0-0x51051].com.valvesoftware.steam[671] ServiceStart: failed to start 
11-11-04 10:40:12 AM [0x0-0x51051].com.valvesoftware.steam[671] SteamID: 0, universe Public 
11-11-04 10:40:12 AM [0x0-0x51051].com.valvesoftware.steam[671] Errors in resource/styles/steam.styles: 
11-11-04 10:40:12 AM [0x0-0x51051].com.valvesoftware.steam[671] Unknown key 'visible' set in style 'html-findbar' in file 'resource/styles/steam.styles' 
11-11-04 10:40:12 AM [0x0-0x51051].com.valvesoftware.steam[671] SteamID: 76561198015080209, universe Public 
11-11-04 10:40:14 AM [0x0-0x51051].com.valvesoftware.steam[671] SteamID: 76561198015080209, universe Public 
11-11-04 10:40:14 AM [0x0-0x51051].com.valvesoftware.steam[671] SteamID: 76561198015080209, universe Public 
11-11-04 10:40:21 AM [0x0-0x51051].com.valvesoftware.steam[671] Adding license for package 2170 
11-11-04 10:40:21 AM [0x0-0x51051].com.valvesoftware.steam[671] Adding license for package 2377 
11-11-04 10:40:21 AM [0x0-0x51051].com.valvesoftware.steam[671] Adding license for package 2031 
11-11-04 10:40:21 AM [0x0-0x51051].com.valvesoftware.steam[671] Adding license for package 2305 
11-11-04 10:40:21 AM [0x0-0x51051].com.valvesoftware.steam[671] Adding license for package 1786 
11-11-04 10:40:21 AM [0x0-0x51051].com.valvesoftware.steam[671] Adding license for package 2605 
11-11-04 10:40:21 AM [0x0-0x51051].com.valvesoftware.steam[671] Adding license for package 232 
11-11-04 10:40:21 AM [0x0-0x51051].com.valvesoftware.steam[671] Adding license for package 2157 
11-11-04 10:40:21 AM [0x0-0x51051].com.valvesoftware.steam[671] Adding license for package 2514 
11-11-04 10:40:21 AM [0x0-0x51051].com.valvesoftware.steam[671] Adding license for package 2729 
11-11-04 10:40:21 AM [0x0-0x51051].com.valvesoftware.steam[671] Adding license for package 6650 
11-11-04 10:40:21 AM [0x0-0x51051].com.valvesoftware.steam[671] Adding license for package 6970 
11-11-04 10:40:21 AM [0x0-0x51051].com.valvesoftware.steam[671] Adding license for package 4551 
11-11-04 10:40:21 AM [0x0-0x51051].com.valvesoftware.steam[671] Adding license for package 7353 
11-11-04 10:40:21 AM [0x0-0x51051].com.valvesoftware.steam[671] Adding license for package 1451 
11-11-04 10:40:21 AM [0x0-0x51051].com.valvesoftware.steam[671] Adding license for package 6098 
11-11-04 10:40:21 AM [0x0-0x51051].com.valvesoftware.steam[671] Adding license for package 0 
11-11-04 10:40:21 AM [0x0-0x51051].com.valvesoftware.steam[671] Adding license for package 12191 
11-11-04 10:40:23 AM [0x0-0x51051].com.valvesoftware.steam[671] SteamID: 0, universe Public 
11-11-04 10:40:26 AM [0x0-0x51051].com.valvesoftware.steam[671] SteamID: 76561198015080209, universe Public 
11-11-04 10:40:27 AM [0x0-0x51051].com.valvesoftware.steam[671] ExecCommandLine: "/Applications/Steam.app/Contents/MacOS/osx32/steam -psn_0_331857" 
11-11-04 10:40:32 AM [0x0-0x51051].com.valvesoftware.steam[671] Failed to create Service pipe 
11-11-04 10:40:32 AM [0x0-0x51051].com.valvesoftware.steam[671] Failed to connect to Steam Service 
11-11-04 10:40:32 AM [0x0-0x51051].com.valvesoftware.steam[671] Failed to load Steam Service 
11-11-04 10:40:32 AM [0x0-0x51051].com.valvesoftware.steam[671] ServiceStart: failed to start 
11-11-04 10:40:33 AM [0x0-0x51051].com.valvesoftware.steam[671] CAPIJobRequestUserStats - Server response failed 2 
11-11-04 10:40:44 AM [0x0-0x51051].com.valvesoftware.steam[671] SteamID: 0, universe Public 
11-11-04 10:40:45 AM [0x0-0x51051].com.valvesoftware.steam[671] System startup time: 38.91 seconds 
11-11-04 10:40:50 AM [0x0-0x51051].com.valvesoftware.steam[671] Failed to create Service pipe 
11-11-04 10:40:50 AM [0x0-0x51051].com.valvesoftware.steam[671] Failed to connect to Steam Service 
11-11-04 10:40:50 AM [0x0-0x51051].com.valvesoftware.steam[671] Failed to load Steam Service 
11-11-04 10:40:50 AM [0x0-0x51051].com.valvesoftware.steam[671] ServiceStart: failed to start 
11-11-04 10:40:51 AM [0x0-0x51051].com.valvesoftware.steam[671] SteamID: 0, universe Public 
11-11-04 10:40:53 AM [0x0-0x51051].com.valvesoftware.steam[671] Game update: AppID 57300 "Amnesia: The Dark Descent", ProcID 700, IP 0.0.0.0:0 
11-11-04 10:40:53 AM com.apple.launchd.peruser.501[105] ([0x0-0x53053].com.frictionalgames.AmnesiaSteamLauncher[700]) Exited with exit code: 255 
11-11-04 10:40:53 AM [0x0-0x51051].com.valvesoftware.steam[671] Game removed: AppID 57300 "Amnesia: The Dark Descent", ProcID 700  
11-11-04 10:41:02 AM [0x0-0x51051].com.valvesoftware.steam[671] KQ: Error reading KQ:Interrupted system call
  
			 
			
			
			
				
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RE: No Amnesia Folder 
			 
			
				Hmm.. looks basically the same as mine except for the Exited with exit code error line.. 
 
Can you create a Frictional Games folder manually in Application Support?? I'm wondering if there is a file permission issue? And you say that Penumbra works?? Check your ~/Library/Preferences/Frictional Games folder. 
			 
			
			
 
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RE: No Amnesia Folder 
			 
			
				 (11-05-2011, 09:49 PM)Urkle Wrote:  Hmm.. looks basically the same as mine except for the Exited with exit code error line.. 
 
Can you create a Frictional Games folder manually in Application Support?? I'm wondering if there is a file permission issue? And you say that Penumbra works?? Check your ~/Library/Preferences/Frictional Games folder. I created a Frictional Games folder in Application Support and reran Amnesia but there was no change.
 
I do have a ~/Library/Preferences/Frictional Games folder that contains Penumbra/Overture. Here's the contents of the hpl.log file from Overture:
 -------- THE HPL ENGINE LOG ------------ 
 
Creating Engine Modules 
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Creating graphics module 
Creating system module 
Creating resource module 
Creating input module 
Creating sound module 
Creating physics module 
Creating ai module 
Creating gui module 
Creating haptic module 
Creating scene module 
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Initializing Resources Module 
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Creating resource managers 
Misc Creation 
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Initializing Graphics Module 
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Init low level graphics 
Setting video mode: 800 x 600 - 32 bpp 
Init Glee...OK 
Setting up OpenGL 
Max texture image units: 16 
Max texture coord units: 8 
Two sided stencil: 1 
Vertex Buffer Object: 1 
Anisotropic filtering: 1 
Max Anisotropic degree: 16 
Multisampling: 1 
Vertex Program: 1 
Fragment Program: 1 
NV Register Combiners: 0 
NV Register Combiners Stages: 1996234 
ATI Fragment Shader: 0 
Creating graphic systems 
Creating Renderer2D 
Renderer2D created 
Creating Renderer3D 
Load Renderer3D gpu programs: 
Extrude 
CG: 'ShadowExtrude_vp.cg' using profile: 'vp40' 
CG: 'ShadowExtrude_fp.cg' using profile: 'fp40' 
Diffuse Vertex 
CG: 'Diffuse_Color_vp.cg' using profile: 'vp40' 
Diffuse Fragment 
CG: 'Diffuse_Color_fp.cg' using profile: 'fp40' 
Fog 
CG: 'Fog_Solid_vp.cg' using profile: 'vp40' 
CG: 'Fog_Solid_fp.cg' using profile: 'fp40' 
Creating fog textures: Solid Additive Alpha  
CG: 'refract_vp.cg' using profile: 'vp40' 
CG: 'refract_fp.cg' using profile: 'fp40' 
CG: 'refract_special_fp.cg' using profile: 'fp40' 
init sky box 
Renderer3D created 
Creating screen buffers size 800.000000 : 600.000000 
Creating programs 
CG: 'PostEffect_Blur_vp.cg' using profile: 'vp40' 
CG: 'PostEffect_Blur_Rect_fp.cg' using profile: 'fp40' 
CG: 'PostEffect_Blur_2D_fp.cg' using profile: 'fp40' 
CG: 'PostEffect_Bloom_vp.cg' using profile: 'vp40' 
CG: 'PostEffect_Bloom_fp.cg' using profile: 'fp40' 
CG: 'PostEffect_Motion_vp.cg' using profile: 'vp40' 
Dynamic loops in motion blur fp not supported, loading static instead. 
CG: 'PostEffect_Motion_staticloop_fp.cg' using profile: 'fp40' 
CG: 'PostEffect_DoF_vp.cg' using profile: 'vp40' 
CG: 'PostEffect_DoF_fp.cg' using profile: 'fp40' 
RendererPostEffects created 
Adding engine materials 
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Initializing Sound Module 
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Initializing OpenAL. 
Trying to open audio device... Success! 
Device name: Built-in Output 
Number of mono sources: 32 
Vendor name: Apple Computer Inc. 
Renderer: Software 
OpenAL Version Supported: 1.1 
EFX: 0 
Output Devices:  
Built-in Output 
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Initializing Game Module 
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Adding engine updates 
Initializing script functions 
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User Initialization 
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WARNING: Language entry 'EventKeyInNoPower' in category '01_10_small_shaft' already exists! 
Initializing Penumbra: Overture 
Version $Rev: 3033 $ 
Date $Date: 2010-12-12 21:46:28 +0000 $ 
Checking Supported Profiles 
Profile CG_PROFILE_VP40 is supported 
Profile CG_PROFILE_FP40 is supported 
Profile CG_PROFILE_ARBVP1 is supported 
Profile CG_PROFILE_ARBFP1 is supported 
Profile CG_PROFILE_GLSLV is supported 
Profile CG_PROFILE_GLSLF is supported 
Profile CG_PROFILE_GLSLC is supported 
Trying to load vertex program! 
CG: 'Test' using profile: 'vp40' 
Success! 
Cache out of date! Reloading collada file 'models/hud_objects/hud_object_flashlight.dae' 
CG: 'DiffuseSpec_Light_vp.cg' using profile: 'vp40' 
CG: 'DiffuseSpec_Light_Spot_vp.cg' using profile: 'vp40' 
CG: 'BumpSpec_Light_fp.cg' using profile: 'fp40' 
CG: 'BumpSpec_Light_Spot_fp.cg' using profile: 'fp40' 
CG: 'Ambient_Color_fp.cg' using profile: 'fp40' 
Cache out of date! Reloading collada file 'models/hud_objects/hud_object_flare.dae' 
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Game Running 
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Statistics 
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Medium framerate: 52.359483 
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User Exit 
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Saving to config 
Saving keys 
Saving to config 
Saving keys 
Reset maphandler 
Exit Player 
Exit Button Handler 
Exit Map Handler 
Exit Game Message Handler 
Exit Radio Handler 
Exit Inventory 
Exit Fade Handler 
Exit Save Handler 
Exit Trigger Handler 
Exit Attack Handler 
Exit Notebook 
Exit Numerical panel 
Exit Intro story 
Exit Death menu 
Exit Graphics helper 
Exit Main menu 
Exit Player hands 
Exit Music handler 
Exit Map Load Text 
Exit PreMenu 
Exit Credits 
Exit Demo end text 
Saving config 
Exit Effect Handler 
Exit Game 
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Exiting Gui Module 
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Exiting Scene Module 
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Exiting Input Module 
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Exiting Sound Module 
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Exiting Graphics Module 
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Exiting Resources Module 
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Done with tilesets 
Done with fonts 
Done with scripts 
Done with particles 
Done with sounds 
Done with meshes 
Done with materials 
Done with Gpu programs 
Done with images 
Destroyed all textures 
Done with sound entities 
Done with animations 
All resources deleted 
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Exiting Physics Module 
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Exiting System Module 
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Deleting game setup provided by user 
- Deleting lowlevel stuff. 
Physics 
Sound 
Input 
Resources 
System 
Graphics 
Haptic 
HPL Exit was successful! 
Saving last config 
 
|--Memory Manager Report-------------------------------| 
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Deleting ATI shader to 0 
Deleting ATI shader to 0 
Deleting ATI shader to 0 
Deleting ATI shader to 0
  
			 
			
			
			
				
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	| 11-05-2011, 10:04 PM  | 
	
		
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RE: No Amnesia Folder 
			 
			
				I haven't heard back from you in a while, is there anything more I can do? 
			 
			
			
			
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	| 11-17-2011, 10:25 AM  | 
	
		
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