Poll: Do you believe in UFO's?

**Ghieri** · 10-31-2012, 02:45 AM

Quote: Why do the Religious defend their religions so heavily? It's a belief.
It may not be true, but it is our ideas, you know?

Not the best idea to compare this to the situation of Religion. It's more... complicated.

Quote: Everything starts with an idea, or else we would not have evolved, say, technologically.

That does not automatically give an idea merit, you have to process it more heavily that spray cheese to get anything of substance, if at all.

**Macgyverthehero** · 10-31-2012, 02:58 AM

(10-31-2012, 02:45 AM)Aldighieri Wrote:
Quote: Why do the Religious defend their religions so heavily? It's a belief.
It may not be true, but it is our ideas, you know?
Not the best idea to compare this to the situation of Religion. It's more... complicated.

Quote: Everything starts with an idea, or else we would not have evolved, say, technologically.
That does not automatically give an idea merit, you have to process it more heavily that spray cheese to get anything of substance, if at all.

Please guys don't get Religion into this, UFO's have nothing to do with it so I don't know why anyone would add Religion into the discussion of Extra Terrestrials and Alien Space Craft.

**Kman** · 10-31-2012, 03:11 AM

I don't see why not. Both of them are widely believed in, and both of them also have a large group of people that strongly don't believe in them. Neither of them have solid evidence supporting them, though they both have lots of history and theories surrounding them. There's not one solid view that everyone has on the subject in either cases (there are tons of different alien theories and hundreds of different religious beliefs that vary from person to person). In certain religions aliens even play part in their beliefs. Honestly, I think you can learn a lot by comparing them with each other.

**Adny** · 10-31-2012, 03:21 AM

(10-31-2012, 03:11 AM)Kman Wrote: I don't see why not. Both of them are widely believed in, and both of them also have a large group of people that strongly don't believe in them. Neither of them have solid evidence supporting them, though they both have lots of history and theories surrounding them. There's not one solid view that everyone has on the subject in either cases (there are tons of different alien theories and hundreds of different religious beliefs that vary from person to person). In certain religions aliens even play part in their beliefs. Honestly, I think you can learn a lot by comparing them with each other.

Opinion (not for the religious):

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**Ghieri** · 10-31-2012, 03:45 AM

Quote: I don't see why not. Both of them are widely believed in, and both of them also have a large group of people that strongly don't believe in them. Neither of them have solid evidence supporting them, though they both have lots of history and theories surrounding them. There's not one solid view that everyone has on the subject in either cases (there are tons of different alien theories and hundreds of different religious beliefs that vary from person to person). In certain religions aliens even play part in their beliefs. Honestly, I think you can learn a lot by comparing them with each other.

Can any religion say that they have a page on the NASA website?

SCIENCE!

Now, basically, here's what you need for life: A moderately sized rock in the habitable zone of it's star system, a large atmosphere rich in a healthy mix of diatomic molecules, and water. You can isolate those planets and see if they have life. The problem being many of them are pretty darn far away(Measured in lightyears) So it will be a very long time before we can study them.

**Kman** · 10-31-2012, 04:03 AM

I know that aliens have much more evidence backing them than religion does and are much more likely to exist, but my point was that saying "this is a discussion about aliens, so we shouldn't even bring up religion!" is dumb and possibly cutting off what could be a pretty interesting discussion.

**Ghieri** · 10-31-2012, 04:20 AM

Quote: "this is a discussion about aliens, so we shouldn't even bring up religion!"

If you can bring an intellectually stimulating topic regarding both then I don't see why not.

I don't have to tell you about the dangers of Religious debate, though.

**Your Computer** · 10-31-2012, 04:27 AM

(10-31-2012, 04:20 AM)Aldighieri Wrote: If you can bring an intellectually stimulating topic regarding both then I don't see why not.

These forums need to learn to stay on topic anyway.

**Statyk** · 10-31-2012, 04:41 AM

Why are people taking what I said out of context? I merely said the thought of alien intervention is my BELIEF, much like RELIGION is a belief for others. THAT'S IT. I said nothing more. If people argue over it, that's not my fault.

I can see this coming out fine, so long as no one starts getting heated over "beliefs", or opinions. I have not, and I would appreciate it if no one else did either. I'd like to have an involved conversation for once without people getting pissed or having a thread locked.

**Ghieri** · 10-31-2012, 05:17 AM

It's interesting to note the parallels between the concept of gods and the concept of aliens. Supreme beings from the sky who come down to either bless us with advanced knowledge or rain fire and destruction on our heads. Either that or always watching, silently. I suspect there's a similar psychological concept there. Perhaps hopeful thinking?

Back on topic, BAM!

Poll: Do you believe in UFO's? You do not have permission to vote in this poll.
Yes	37.50%	6	37.50%
No	62.50%	10	62.50%
Total		16 vote(s)	100%