Admit One

[CorinthianMerchant]

As my 2000th post, I declare that I'm as straight as a flagpole on the 4th of July.

[Nice]

As my 2000th post, I declare that I'm as straight as a flagpole on the 4th of July.

[Tiger]

Tiger, you used to be straight, but then you apparently looked at a picture of me-- changing all that.

hehe, lol. I might just be bi-curious though, because you know, puberty and shit.

[Wooderson]

I suggest you watch these Tiger.

http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLCD2ADE63BB187AB5

[eliasfrost]

[Tiger]

haha, wtf!

[Kman]

Huh, I didn't know there was a book.

On-Topic: I honestly wish that I, or someone else, would "reset" the world to what it was like during 5000 b.c. or something like that, that humans would exist but everything we had done would just be erased. Buildings, inventions etc. "Living in harmony" with nature and just live to survive. No huge complications...I wish we could go back to the time where we slept outside, hunted animals with bows and simple knifes for food, gathered things from around us to use for survival, to swim in a lake for the sake of swimming in a lake. I wish there would be no religions, nothing that ruled us, nothing that would change our ways. We would meet people along the way to our goal, whatever it might be; Traveling to another country, make something we could call home, something that would be left over for our descendants. I wish we could be truly free, nothing keeping us from being exactly that. I know I'd have to give up things like computers, games, real beds etc. but for that dreamworld of mine, I would offer that without a doubt...

I hate to break it to you but such a world really could never exist, or if it did it wouldn't last long, simply due to common features of human nature. There's a reason why religion exists, why we feel the need to have a government, why society works the way it does, etc; all humans share a very basic set of common goals and ideas, and our society is just the way that those goals have manifested. Even if we did reset ourselves these goals and ideas would just manifest in a different way depending on how we developed, it would still have the same flaws as our society today.

[Nice]

I hate to break it to you but such a world really could never exist, or if it did it wouldn't last long, simply due to common features of human nature. There's a reason why religion exists, why we feel the need to have a government, why society works the way it does, etc; all humans share a very basic set of common goals and ideas, and our society is just the way that those goals have manifested. Even if we did reset ourselves these goals and ideas would just manifest in a different way depending on how we developed, it would still have the same flaws as our society today.

yes

[Tiger]

Huh, I didn't know there was a book.

On-Topic: I honestly wish that I, or someone else, would "reset" the world to what it was like during 5000 b.c. or something like that, that humans would exist but everything we had done would just be erased. Buildings, inventions etc. "Living in harmony" with nature and just live to survive. No huge complications...I wish we could go back to the time where we slept outside, hunted animals with bows and simple knifes for food, gathered things from around us to use for survival, to swim in a lake for the sake of swimming in a lake. I wish there would be no religions, nothing that ruled us, nothing that would change our ways. We would meet people along the way to our goal, whatever it might be; Traveling to another country, make something we could call home, something that would be left over for our descendants. I wish we could be truly free, nothing keeping us from being exactly that. I know I'd have to give up things like computers, games, real beds etc. but for that dreamworld of mine, I would offer that without a doubt...

I hate to break it to you but such a world really could never exist, or if it did it wouldn't last long, simply due to common features of human nature. There's a reason why religion exists, why we feel the need to have a government, why society works the way it does, etc; all humans share a very basic set of common goals and ideas, and our society is just the way that those goals have manifested. Even if we did reset ourselves these goals and ideas would just manifest in a different way depending on how we developed, it would still have the same flaws as our society today.

I've thought about the fact that it would return to "normal" again and it would be pretty hard to not keep it from doing so, but we're talking about a wish, it's not like it's ever gonna happen anyway. There's never going to be a perfect world or a world without hate discrimination. Humans fucked the world(planet) up.

[Froge]

I've thought about the fact that it would return to "normal" again and it would be pretty hard to not keep it from doing so, but we're talking about a wish, it's not like it's ever gonna happen anyway. There's never going to be a perfect world or a world without hate. Humans fucked the world up.

That's an unnecessarily nihilistic way of looking at things. Hate, prejudice, and inter-group conflict have all been built within us through millions of years of evolution. This is because we've primarily survived by belonging in groups with hierarchical structures. Psychologists note that each individual unconsciously preserves a collective identity based on their group membership, and prejudice follows almost immediately if there is disagreement against this group. I could, for example, belong to the group of people "who very much enjoy Chopin's music." This immediately establishes bias within me against everyone who "does not like Chopin's music as much as me." It's human nature to create these dichotomies, as back in our evolutionary past we survived and passed our genes on by maintaining unquestioning obedience to the collective mindset.

So no, we didn't fuck things up. Nature made us this way.


There is a book you should read named "Oryx and Crake." In this book, scientists identify every gene responsible for human prejudice and conflict (e.g. racism, sexism) and attempt to engineer a superhuman race that exists entirely without these genes, but with disastrous consequences.