(07-21-2014, 03:09 PM)Kreekakon Wrote: Well MrWhitticus, I'll be the first one to try, and make this thread work. Don't worry I come in the tone of peace even if the tone of some of my sentences does not sound like it 
However first things first:
MrWhitticus Wrote:Argue as much as you want about how he's apparently a good person.
MrWhitticus Wrote:I made this thread for you Kim. Taste it and realize your true home.
You shouldn't ever open a "discussion" with sentences like this ever. It is extremely passive aggressive, and implies that you likely have no respect for any counter points the other party would turn up with.
Enough of that though, to some of the things you said in the other thread:
(07-21-2014, 02:34 PM)MrWhitticus Wrote: This doesn't count for shit. The fact that a good 60% of his audience is made up of people your age and younger means that by making frequent use of rape jokes, homophobia, misogyny, transmisogyny and ableism has an effect on the younger watcher's mind and it may become apparent to them that the aforementioned horrible traits are part of normal life, and they will start using them themselves.
(07-21-2014, 02:34 PM)MrWhitticus Wrote: All in all, PDP is offensive, whether he's being serious or not, and he is a bad influence on young children and probably is one of the reasons that I heard a 9 year old yelling "faggot" at a dude wearing a pink jacket at a shopping center last week.
You are only half-right here. It is true that a media entertainer/public person should brush themselves up to not be a bad influence on their targeted audience.
But that's the key point here: There is no way that Pewdie's targeted audience is ever young children considering the way he acts, and the language he uses in his videos. His target audience is likely more grown-up, and mature people who can think for themselves while enjoying Pewdie's form of humor.
It is not his problem that children who can be negatively affected by him try to go, and watch his videos. They are not suitable for them, and parents should keep their children from coming into contact with things like this until they are ready.
Counter Argument: But Pewdiepie is already wrong at his core, because he acts like this. The very fact that he makes potential offensive jokes is already wrong regardless of target audience.
My response: By this logic any movie, video game, or Yotube video that is offensive in any manner should be taken down, because they are offensive. It can't work that way. The way it should work is if a person enjoys this, and can think for themselves likes it...then they can go ahead, and like it. For minors who can't yet think for themselves well, parents should moderate them.
Counter Argument: Pewdiepie should change his humor style once he realizes that his core audience is rapidly becoming young children.
My response: I sort of already covered this in saying that young children are not his target audience at all, and it's not his problem if minors wander into something not intended for them. It's like saying a movie theater should change the R-rated film its playing if a child gets let in by the guards regardless of the fact that he's underage.
(07-21-2014, 02:34 PM)MrWhitticus Wrote: And yes, he is making fun of rape victims by making it seem like the horrible events that happened to them are just a game and should not be treated seriously
Not to mention that although he has apologized about these things he has made no effort to black them out of his "jokes" making his apology worthless
I have not been paying intensively close attention to Pewdie's videos for this, so I may be wrong, but I can say with about 70% confidence that in regards to rape jokes at least he has not been making them all as of late, and I do not recall the word even popping up.
He did use to make them, but like you said he apologized for making them sometime back, and they seem to have either completely stopped or dropped insanely in appearances.
Well....
I could argue for both sides
Yes Pewdiepie is inappropriate for young children, and the fact that they can use Youtube is worry enough
But it would be stupid to go "Your videos are inappropriate and they have to be removed because of viewers you couldn't control"
2 things could happen
1. PDP could put an age warning at the start of his videos (It wouldn't do much, but some of the better raised young children would leave, and because of that warning any young children watching it can't blame him for anything bad they do, since it was their choice to ignore the age warning
2. a little more abstract, but hear me out
Youtube itself could create an age filter thing (Yes I know it exists already, but it's only used on like 12 videos) and Pewdiepie could set his viewing age to 13 and older
On the other hand
He has no control over who views his videos, and although he may be aware of the younger viewers, it would be unfair for him to have to "tone down his humour" just because there's a few 7 year olds watching (although it would probably be the right thing to do)
and Modern Society sucks, I knew what sex was at the age of 8, before he existed, so he is certainly not the only bad influence on children nowadays, and recently it seems that he's gotten a lot better
You can argue for both sides, but don't argue for one side because you support him or hate him, argue for which side sounds true
(07-21-2014, 05:06 PM)victorkim890(KimmyChimmy) Wrote: hate tat makeup video cause mark is actually torchering himself for his videos
I don't know if you're doing it ironically or if you can't spell at all
But please, PLEASE stop writing like that
Take the 12 extra seconds it takes to write
"I hate that makeup video, because Mark is actually torturing himself for his videos"
How hard was that?
and if you can't spell.... just leave this website (and Youtube too, because if you can't spell those videos probably aren't appropriate)
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