Thief

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Last post about Dark Souls:

I haven't played the game, but I watched a lot of videos and pictures and everything what I saw is not that kind of game I like.

The problem is that after I had played Gothic, which is the perfect designed game in my opinion, I always have to compare everything with it. And it seems like no other game can hold a candle there.

When you have always drank the best wine, everything else no longer tastes good.

It is probably wrong to compare your favorite game with everything else, but I have my expectations. And not everyone would be able to understand that.

Formally I do agree with you totally. Yes, quests and points are ruining immersion. Points exceptionally in particular. But practically I believe that mementos at Amnesia series are quests too. Supposedly (maybe "hopefully" is a better word) quests at Thief will be exactly the same as mementos, just a bunch of diary alike notes in order not to forget to do something. For me personally that's fine. At least if quests themselves are good, interesting and carefully implemented into the story and imagery world of the game...

I don't have anything about quests, it's what RPGs are about. But I simply hate it to read this word in a game. We can call it "quests" out of the game, but never in-game!!! Because when you help someone in real life, is it a quest for you? No. I have no problem with "mementos" (when they are real mementos by the player and not like hints).

...By the way, you mentioned the Elder Scrolls, I do recommend to give that series a try, because quests there are similar to mementos, diary notes "not to forget". Extremely immersive game in general and in details. Well, that's my opinion, I do not insist I am right. Just recommending to give the Elder Scrolls series a try...

Yeah, I will play them soon. In german, and I don't know which word they're used for quests. In Gothic they called it "Aufträge" what means in english something like a job (to-do entry in a diary). But there are also other things I dislike in most games.