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Is Sarang a complete idiot?
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RE: Is Sarang a complete idiot?

(10-02-2015, 02:35 AM)caffeine4671 Wrote:
(10-01-2015, 11:12 AM)Bodertz Wrote: Step into a Star Trek Teleporter. You are teleported to the planet below. Did you die?

No, you didn't, because the fictional transporter doesn't copy and destroy your being. Unless logic didn't factor into presenting that question and the only reason you said it was to give validation to fanciful thinking. That and a very loose definition of death. I get the idea of it and the morality of it. Giving a new version of humanity hope and a chance is a noble cause, but it's not magic.

That's why Catherine Chun was so calm about everything, because she new exactly who she was as far as identity went and what the project entailed for humanity as a whole. As well as what "she" (her copy) would get herself into.

Tl;dr: Copying != a special phantasmagorical event where you transcend your body. It appears that way for your clone, but you're shit out of luck.

The transporter disintegrates your body and rebuilds you at the other end. I don't think no longer existing is that unreasonable a definition of death. Does the transporter need to use the original atoms that made you up, or will any that fit do? If any will do, then the transporter could create another you out of completely different atoms at a different destination. Are you the real you because you have the original atoms? What if the transporter made both of you out of half original and half new atoms? Are you half dead? Are you in two bodies? Where are you? How many wires do we have to replace before the Chun we pulled out isn't the same Chun we plugged back in?

The girl who killed herself in her bed, she died. She is not on the ARK. Sarang, too, did not get on the ARK. Except they both did, because their copies did. Their experiences diverged, though, when they killed themselves. Sarang was wrong if he thought he would replaces the scan with himself when he killed himself.

The reason I don't find his view that unreasonable even though he was wrong if he believed that is because I don't think there is only one you. When you go to sleep, your brain hasn't made you yet. You aren't there. When your brain creates you again and you dream/wake up, why are you the same you who went to sleep? You were gone. Are you the same you just because the same brain created you again?

I don't think that matters. My brain is just a machine that gives rise to me. I die whenever it stops making me. And another me is created whenever it or anything else creates me.
10-02-2015, 01:23 PM
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Is Sarang a complete idiot? - by caffeine4671 - 09-30-2015, 01:59 AM
RE: Is Sarang a complete idiot? - by Ashtoreth - 09-30-2015, 02:54 AM
RE: Is Sarang a complete idiot? - by caffeine4671 - 09-30-2015, 03:25 AM
RE: Is Sarang a complete idiot? - by rubixcube - 09-30-2015, 04:21 AM
RE: Is Sarang a complete idiot? - by 1eyedking - 09-30-2015, 12:33 PM
RE: Is Sarang a complete idiot? - by eddman - 09-30-2015, 01:14 PM
RE: Is Sarang a complete idiot? - by humanoid - 09-30-2015, 11:12 PM
RE: Is Sarang a complete idiot? - by humanoid - 09-30-2015, 11:50 PM
RE: Is Sarang a complete idiot? - by Bodertz - 09-30-2015, 11:57 PM
RE: Is Sarang a complete idiot? - by humanoid - 10-01-2015, 12:29 AM
RE: Is Sarang a complete idiot? - by Bodertz - 10-01-2015, 02:17 AM
RE: Is Sarang a complete idiot? - by caffeine4671 - 10-01-2015, 04:01 AM
RE: Is Sarang a complete idiot? - by Bodertz - 10-01-2015, 11:12 AM
RE: Is Sarang a complete idiot? - by caffeine4671 - 10-02-2015, 02:35 AM
RE: Is Sarang a complete idiot? - by Bodertz - 10-02-2015, 01:23 PM
RE: Is Sarang a complete idiot? - by humanoid - 10-01-2015, 10:32 AM
RE: Is Sarang a complete idiot? - by humanoid - 10-01-2015, 05:33 PM
RE: Is Sarang a complete idiot? - by Bodertz - 10-01-2015, 07:31 PM
RE: Is Sarang a complete idiot? - by humanoid - 10-01-2015, 11:19 PM
RE: Is Sarang a complete idiot? - by EnDash - 10-02-2015, 03:47 PM
RE: Is Sarang a complete idiot? - by jamman39 - 10-03-2015, 01:31 AM
RE: Is Sarang a complete idiot? - by Kein - 10-03-2015, 05:19 PM
RE: Is Sarang a complete idiot? - by caffeine4671 - 10-03-2015, 05:32 PM
RE: Is Sarang a complete idiot? - by Kein - 10-03-2015, 05:54 PM



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