Prometheus

[crisosphinx]

Spoiler incoming:

I thought prometheus was okay until they were attacked. From there on it was a downhill climb. The thing which broke all immersion for me was when the main-character gets infected with an alien in her stomach and the "robot"/David basically implies that he will give her "a slow painful death" (- as well as bringing dangerous aliens back to earth). She removes the alien with a "brutal cutting" in the capsule and severly wounded stumbles out to join David again as if nothing happened. Is this character suicidal/psychotic or both?

After that I had to pause the film and look up who wrote the script. Oh surprise. One of the writers also wrote the series "Lost". That actually explained a lot.

In my opinion they tried to cram too much nonsense into it; just to call it "mystical" or "mind-boggling". It doesn't really pan out that way though, the story becomes muddled instead and looses its "red-thread". I have nothing against films being mystical - but mysteries have to be planned and tied together through a great net of hints and logic.

I liked the environments though. I can probably recommend seeing this movie once - it's worth that, but I wouldn't see it again.

She didn't understand what was going on. Place yourself in her shoes. You just got impregnated from...? Are you even impregnated? Who knows, your stomach hurts, everything is spinning around you and BAM, you might have hallucinated that David told you he wants what's in your stomach.

She was impregnated during the second (or was it 3rd? Cant remember since I haven't seen the movies in a while...) and, again, the same deal happens to her. Just a different twist of events. She also gets the same deal during the 4th movie, but gains special powers.

To the "Lost" director thing... He planned out the entire series. There's just a lot of filler. I never was a fan of the tv show, but the story development was good. Mystical events and and such, in this movie, had already been planned. There are no plotholes int he movie, no loopholes... Everything in that movie has a reason, just like philosophy. Give an example of the "not planned" mystical part, I'll explain it to you. Otherwise, it just, like a prequel does, sets up for the other movies. If that's the case, then BAM, there you go. Answers already there for you. Think of Starwars and how they did what they did (also, this applies to Cranky, Starwars' science was even more abstract and wrong compared to Prometheus ).

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Come on - you have a film degree, yet you don't understand science fiction. Science fiction isn't a handwave that you can use to explain anything whenever you feel like it. It's a plausible extrapolation from current science. The more that you can root the science in realism, the better science fiction it is. You have FTL drives because they're absolutely necessary to go anywhere in the solar system at a reasonable speed, and you have cryostasis because people think that it's plausible, and both concepts are also very popular. When you write fiction, you try to do as much as possible, with as small changes as possible, otherwise people will not take a movie seriously.

For science fiction, the alien series is made to look realistic. We have FTL, cryosleep, autodocs, cyborgs, and maybe even aliens (other than xenomorphs), but this tech is described in as realistic of a fashion as possible. It is rooted in current science, and that's what made people relate to it and like it. Nostromo wasn't a space yacht for transdimensional tourists, but a boring ore cargo ship, because that's the most realistic thing that we'd be doing with FTL.

In contrast, Prometheus had advanced GPS mapping systems that didn't work at all, and Frankenstein medicine. It botched every chance that it got in dealing with basic scientific concepts of *today*, and most basic procedures, because the writers had aboslutely no clue whatsoever, how science has worked during the recent century. That website that they made, I bet they wrote/edited that just to cover their asses after the movie flopped, and it still cannot patch all the holes. In fact, the patches are so strained, that they just present new holes: If they can scan the air inside every sealed cervice of a base for alien contaminants, then how come they don't pick up the black goo? "Because... ...science!"?

You say that this movie created jobs, like it's some kind of a feat. Digging a hole is a job, and so is making a successful movie. If these guys would just have hired an actual scientist - even a freaking average nerd - they would have made a successful movie, whose sequel most people won't pirate to see.

I understand Sci Fi perfectly well. Film and sci fi are two ends of an equally messy goo. Film involves you to make specific sacrifices to tell and entire story. I'm not saying they did it 100% correct, but dude, you try making a $130 million dollar film. It's not easy. You have conflict of interest everywhere. The actors will do something stupid every once in a while, the lighting, boom operators, cameramen, sound effects coordinators, special effects makeup artist, concept artists, etc etc etc, have to get everything correct. Then you have 3D animation, texturers, modelers, special effects artist, (the list goes on). They did it their way.

It did create jobs. I'm not saying that it's a feat, but you have to give them credit where credit is due. It wasn't a rancid movie. They didn't pick up the black goo because it wasn't in the open yet. Plus it was inside a sealed room and the goo, if you recall, is DNA. It's not a chemical.

Again, place yourself in their shoes. It's not all about science, it's about human interaction and emotion as well.

If you wanted to see a movie where they just pick up the black goo and head home, where is the cliff hanger, where's the story, where's the drama and action that everyone wants to see? A film is for entertainment purposes, I'm not saying Sci Fi is the reason why they don't have to explain anything, it's the film industry. Again, you try making a film, see how hard it is.




What are you? A science major? Programmer? Whatever it is, you don't seem to understand how to create movies/films, you don't understand how to set one up, how much work it involves, how many revisions it goes through and how much the script and function of the movie will change throughout it's process. People send you critique, tell you to change things, expect more out of you, do this and do that. Eventually, what you have left is a fraction of what you originally had. This is probably what you see from Prometheus.