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Poll: What do you think about "art"?
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Modern art can suck it! Old school all the way! *kinky thoughts about Rembrandt*
37.50%
6 37.50%
Old school can suck it! I can do modern crap to! *kinky thoughts about Damien Hirsts cristall skull*
6.25%
1 6.25%
I don`t care about it (But some popcorn would be nice)
31.25%
5 31.25%
I am unsure (but yeah...popcorn)
12.50%
2 12.50%
Dave can shut up and go teach some pre-schoolers how to use finger colors!!!
12.50%
2 12.50%
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State of the "Art"
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RE: State of the "Art"

Looks like discussion is simply nailed down to only two of us Smile Well, that's not a problem as long as I do not care. Theme you started is extremely (yup) interesting to me, so I will continue and nevermind if there's only two of us...

First of all, about "frames" and "editing". I do agree that art is not have to be "framed" and "edited". Yes, of course, I clearly understand that it's simply impossible. Absolutely impossable. I've meant only one single thing that while author is dealing with movies, animation, theatre, painting, literature, etc... it's simply much easier to make accents, to focus attention on certain thoughts, metaphors, etc. I've been talking only about that kind of "controlling" consumer's thoughts. It's not an absolute control, but still it is control. And while author is able to think what a consumer might think here and there with usual arts, it's nearly impossible to control in such way a gamer. At least with absolutely open non-linear world like at the Elder Scrolls, Fallout, etc. And, yeah, I do believe anyone who would decide to make real art-game-not-game (how else to say? O.o) would have to deal with such an open world. Simply because that's the most exciting thing with games - free exploring of a big open world. Well, that's my opinion. I could be wrong or I could change my mind.

Anyway games aren't art at the moment. At least as I personally understand art. The only art form which is still alive and evolving is cinematography (and music). And not art-house, but pseudo-documentary. I do not mean Blair Witch Big Grin No, of course. But! I think that the idea itself to make an auditory think, that all events on screen are real, were real is a way to move forward and explore new yet unexplored forms of making movies. I might say that some, only a few of viral advertising short videos are those tiny movies of the future. For example that http://youtu.be/xuanP2P41_I shorty is art. Short, but effective. Maybe because it's not viral advertisement but simply a virus without a client (I just personally know people who made it). Well, it's just a tiny minute which forced millions of people to talk about the Pyramid of Power and Higher Power, about the conflict between the power of government, power of money and power of something from the "other side". I presume any author would be just on high if he could force people to discuss such a phylosophical things. And that's only a minute of reality. The question if it's real or not is still open. It's sounds funny, but it is so. And... what I was talking about? Ah! Yes. I think, that if there could be a whole movie made in a way when nobody's sure if it's real or not, that movie could be a break through. (Don't get me wrong I am not talking about shooting style, pseudo-documentary, pseudo-homevideos, etc. Nope. I was talking strictly about art movie when it's truly impossible to state if it's real or not. And yeah there's no such movie at the right moment. But I think that the future of cinematography, at least one of the millions of ways to evolve it.)

P.S. Do you like Tool? I mean the music band. Their videos and design of CD packeges. I am asking because some of your art works, sketches reminded me their, Tool, videos and designs.
(This post was last modified: 07-07-2013, 08:57 PM by Alex Ros.)
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State of the "Art" - by DavidS - 07-06-2013, 05:06 PM
RE: State of the "Art" - by Ghieri - 07-06-2013, 05:16 PM
RE: State of the "Art" - by Froge - 07-06-2013, 05:26 PM
RE: State of the "Art" - by Ghieri - 07-06-2013, 05:28 PM
RE: State of the "Art" - by Bridge - 07-06-2013, 05:29 PM
RE: State of the "Art" - by DavidS - 07-06-2013, 06:28 PM
RE: State of the "Art" - by Danny Boy - 07-06-2013, 06:11 PM
RE: State of the "Art" - by Traggey - 07-06-2013, 06:18 PM
RE: State of the "Art" - by failedALIAS - 07-06-2013, 07:17 PM
RE: State of the "Art" - by vixenVIPER - 07-06-2013, 07:21 PM
RE: State of the "Art" - by DavidS - 07-06-2013, 07:51 PM
RE: State of the "Art" - by Danny Boy - 07-06-2013, 07:23 PM
RE: State of the "Art" - by Alex Ros - 07-06-2013, 08:44 PM
RE: State of the "Art" - by DavidS - 07-06-2013, 10:13 PM
RE: State of the "Art" - by Alex Ros - 07-07-2013, 03:49 PM
RE: State of the "Art" - by DavidS - 07-07-2013, 05:00 PM
RE: State of the "Art" - by failedALIAS - 07-06-2013, 08:55 PM
RE: State of the "Art" - by Alex Ros - 07-07-2013, 08:44 PM
RE: State of the "Art" - by DavidS - 07-08-2013, 04:31 PM
RE: State of the "Art" - by Alex Ros - 07-08-2013, 04:44 PM
RE: State of the "Art" - by DavidS - 07-09-2013, 05:26 PM
RE: State of the "Art" - by Alex Ros - 07-09-2013, 08:58 PM
RE: State of the "Art" - by Bridge - 07-09-2013, 09:08 PM
RE: State of the "Art" - by Adrianis - 07-10-2013, 06:12 PM
RE: State of the "Art" - by Alex Ros - 07-10-2013, 08:00 PM
RE: State of the "Art" - by Adrianis - 07-11-2013, 10:46 AM
RE: State of the "Art" - by Alex Ros - 07-11-2013, 12:02 PM
RE: State of the "Art" - by Adrianis - 07-11-2013, 12:24 PM
RE: State of the "Art" - by Alex Ros - 07-11-2013, 01:47 PM
RE: State of the "Art" - by DavidS - 07-11-2013, 02:26 PM



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