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RE: Gender

(10-25-2013, 12:43 AM)Paddy™ Wrote: The rate of work-related deaths is 20 times higher for men than it is for women. This isn't a coincide or evidence that women are less clumsy with a chainsaw, it's evidence that men generally do more dangerous and physically demanding work. This is just one example of how men and women are better suited for/attracted to different kinds of occupation, which brings about imbalance in the amount of money earned. Blame evolution, not sexism.

fair enough point but that still goes back to the whole idea that it's kind of dictated by society what men and women should and shouldn't do; it's assumed that men should do jobs that require more physical work and generally are more dangerous. yes there's the whole argument of genetics making it easier for men to do those sorts of jobs but considering we've moved past genetic advantages in the name of equality (gay marriage becoming legal despite the fact that homosexuals can't reproduce, education for the mentally disabled, etc. etc.). obviously there's nothing very concrete you can do to change that, though raising future generations without a set mindset that certain genders are meant for certain occupations can help a lot.

(10-25-2013, 12:43 AM)Paddy™ Wrote: A man and a woman with equal qualifications and equal liability will not be treated differently because of their genitalia, and if they are there'll be a lawsuit which the woman will win every time.

well yeah of course no employers going to say upfront "i am not hiring you because you are [x] gender" unless they wanted to get in legal trouble, most probably don't even intend to sway towards a certain gender when hiring others, but a lot of the time imposed biases can affect an employers decision. this goes back to that idea that we're brought up in a society that views men as the hard workers and women as the stay at home mom type, cause naturally with that mindset employers will be more inclined to hire a man.

that chart i posted a few pages back doesn't lie anywho, interpret it how you want, this is just what i make of it given what i've learned about the matter.

(10-25-2013, 12:43 AM)Paddy™ Wrote: Which social norms demoralise women? I'm not saying there aren't any, I'm just asking for a few examples.

women aren't meant to be sexual or promiscuous. this is why when a women goes around and sleeps with a bunch of guys she'll most likely be viewed a lot worse than if a guy went around and sleep with a bunch of girls. think of it, the large majority of the time the girl in the first case would be viewed as a slut but the guy would have been viewed as a "player" or some shit like that.

women have to be skinny, shaved, and well dressed if they want to be viewed as beautiful. this does of course effect men to a certain extent too, but it's generally imposed on women much much more. that's why you don't hear of guys developing anorexia or bulimia

like i mentioned before, women are supposed to take a much less rigorous and hands on profession then men, and if they have kids they're often expected to give up there job for a few years to raise their kid

women are expected to be submissive to men when it comes to sex and relationships, this has a lot to do with that first point i brought up. it's also where the whole concept of the frinedzone comes from, since guys assume that women are obligated to want them back if they pursue feelings for a girl.

dunno thats just a few i thought of off the top of my head

i forgot how much i actually dislike typing out walls of texts in online debates so im outie have fun all of u

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Gender - by Paddy™ - 10-22-2013, 12:58 PM
RE: Gender - by The chaser - 10-22-2013, 01:09 PM
RE: Gender - by PutraenusAlivius - 10-22-2013, 01:22 PM
RE: Gender - by Nice - 10-22-2013, 01:51 PM
RE: Gender - by FlawlessHappiness - 10-22-2013, 02:45 PM
RE: Gender - by Nice - 10-22-2013, 03:15 PM
RE: Gender - by Mechavomit - 10-22-2013, 04:18 PM
RE: Gender - by MyRedNeptune - 10-22-2013, 11:08 PM
RE: Gender - by Ashtoreth - 10-25-2013, 09:19 AM
RE: Gender - by Ghieri - 10-22-2013, 04:42 PM
RE: Gender - by Froge - 10-22-2013, 09:15 PM
RE: Gender - by Mechavomit - 10-22-2013, 11:41 PM
RE: Gender - by Kman - 10-22-2013, 11:54 PM
RE: Gender - by Nice - 10-23-2013, 01:31 PM
RE: Gender - by Kman - 10-23-2013, 11:49 PM
RE: Gender - by VaeVictis - 10-23-2013, 12:33 AM
RE: Gender - by failedALIAS - 10-23-2013, 05:43 AM
RE: Gender - by VaeVictis - 10-23-2013, 05:51 AM
RE: Gender - by Alardem - 10-23-2013, 04:19 AM
RE: Gender - by VaeVictis - 10-23-2013, 04:26 AM
RE: Gender - by Tiger - 10-23-2013, 09:08 AM
RE: Gender - by Kreekakon - 10-23-2013, 07:41 AM
RE: Gender - by Paddy™ - 10-23-2013, 11:59 AM
RE: Gender - by Bridge - 10-23-2013, 05:07 PM
RE: Gender - by VaeVictis - 10-24-2013, 03:40 AM
RE: Gender - by Bridge - 10-24-2013, 09:29 AM
RE: Gender - by VaeVictis - 10-24-2013, 10:26 AM
RE: Gender - by Bridge - 10-24-2013, 02:04 PM
RE: Gender - by VaeVictis - 10-24-2013, 02:29 PM
RE: Gender - by Ashtoreth - 10-24-2013, 03:16 PM
RE: Gender - by Paddy™ - 10-24-2013, 03:21 PM
RE: Gender - by Bridge - 10-24-2013, 05:09 PM
RE: Gender - by VaeVictis - 10-25-2013, 01:53 AM
RE: Gender - by Bridge - 10-25-2013, 02:59 PM
RE: Gender - by Paddy™ - 10-26-2013, 06:25 PM
RE: Gender - by Bridge - 10-26-2013, 06:55 PM
RE: Gender - by Paddy™ - 10-27-2013, 12:30 AM
RE: Gender - by Paddy™ - 10-24-2013, 10:34 PM
RE: Gender - by failedALIAS - 10-23-2013, 06:04 AM
RE: Gender - by Ghieri - 10-23-2013, 06:18 AM
RE: Gender - by VaeVictis - 10-23-2013, 09:24 AM
RE: Gender - by Paddy™ - 10-23-2013, 08:21 AM
RE: Gender - by Acies - 10-23-2013, 05:52 PM
RE: Gender - by imgoneimdead - 10-23-2013, 06:39 PM
RE: Gender - by CarnivorousJelly - 10-24-2013, 12:41 AM
RE: Gender - by PutraenusAlivius - 10-24-2013, 02:51 PM
RE: Gender - by Nice - 10-24-2013, 02:55 PM
RE: Gender - by PutraenusAlivius - 10-24-2013, 03:02 PM
RE: Gender - by Nice - 10-24-2013, 03:37 PM
RE: Gender - by Mechavomit - 10-24-2013, 05:37 PM
RE: Gender - by Kman - 10-25-2013, 12:27 AM
RE: Gender - by Paddy™ - 10-25-2013, 12:43 AM
RE: Gender - by Kman - 10-25-2013, 01:27 AM
RE: Gender - by Paddy™ - 10-25-2013, 02:33 AM
RE: Gender - by Cuyir - 10-24-2013, 09:47 PM
RE: Gender - by Ghieri - 10-25-2013, 03:18 AM
RE: Gender - by Alardem - 10-25-2013, 04:50 AM
RE: Gender - by Paddy™ - 10-25-2013, 05:32 AM
RE: Gender - by Alardem - 10-25-2013, 05:55 AM
RE: Gender - by Paddy™ - 10-25-2013, 06:36 AM
RE: Gender - by VaeVictis - 10-25-2013, 07:07 AM
RE: Gender - by VaeVictis - 10-25-2013, 09:58 AM
RE: Gender - by Ashtoreth - 10-25-2013, 10:06 AM
RE: Gender - by VaeVictis - 10-25-2013, 10:34 AM
RE: Gender - by Ashtoreth - 10-25-2013, 10:45 AM
RE: Gender - by PutraenusAlivius - 10-25-2013, 12:33 PM
RE: Gender - by VaeVictis - 10-26-2013, 02:53 AM
RE: Gender - by Mechavomit - 10-25-2013, 11:22 PM
RE: Gender - by MyRedNeptune - 10-26-2013, 12:20 AM
RE: Gender - by Paddy™ - 10-26-2013, 09:38 AM
RE: Gender - by PutraenusAlivius - 10-26-2013, 12:41 AM
RE: Gender - by Bridge - 10-26-2013, 12:54 AM
RE: Gender - by Mechavomit - 10-26-2013, 01:01 AM
RE: Gender - by PutraenusAlivius - 10-26-2013, 02:38 AM
RE: Gender - by Kman - 10-26-2013, 02:50 AM
RE: Gender - by Kman - 10-26-2013, 04:12 AM
RE: Gender - by Froge - 10-26-2013, 04:54 AM
RE: Gender - by Kreekakon - 10-26-2013, 10:42 AM
RE: Gender - by Cuyir - 10-26-2013, 09:35 PM
RE: Gender - by Bridge - 10-27-2013, 02:20 PM
RE: Gender - by Paddy™ - 10-27-2013, 04:59 PM
RE: Gender - by Paddy™ - 11-01-2013, 06:50 AM
RE: Gender - by VaeVictis - 11-01-2013, 07:09 AM
RE: Gender - by Paddy™ - 11-01-2013, 07:03 PM
RE: Gender - by Cuyir - 11-01-2013, 04:57 PM
RE: Gender - by wubwub - 03-03-2014, 05:22 PM
RE: Gender - by Kreekakon - 03-03-2014, 05:32 PM



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