Gender

[MyRedNeptune]

Paddy, ever since this thread started your posts have been rubbing me the wrong way. I didn't think I'd gather the motivation to actually respond to your stuff, but nothing rustles my jimmies like ridiculous straw men, and I can no longer tolerate you shitting all over feminism like that.

Welp, here goes nothing...

Even when the system seems to privilege women over men it's not seen as evidence against the idea of a patriarchy, it's simply taken as further evidence for it:

"Women are greatly benefited by the court system, both in terms of jail times/punishment for crimes and custody of children. Doesn't that show that women aren't oppressed by an inherently oppressive, conspiratorial system?"

"No, it proves that women are infantilised by men and are seen as weak and in need of more privilege."

"So you do have some privilege?"

"It's hardly privilege, it's simply further evidence that we're not in control of our own destinies!"

"So we'll even things out and given you the same jail terms and custody rights as men?"

"Hell no, we fought hard for these things!"

The last two quotes are BS (I honestly doubt anyone who would say that would be taken seriously at all because it's such an obvious contradiction), but the rest is 100% correct. The fact that women are favored in family matters is some of the most concrete evidence for a social bias. Yes, women are infantilized and seen as weak people that are in need of protection, and I'm not sure how you managed to criticize that comment as an inconsistency.

Guess what - any kind of inequality is evidence for a "patriarchy".

And before you jump on that statement and tell me that men are discriminated against just as much as women or something like that, ask yourself this: what are considered to be the most valuable personal achievements in our modern capitalistic society? Power, knowledge, money, fame, recognition, respect - probably one of those, right? Well, the funny thing is that, for some peculiar reason, men tend to be more successful in those fields than women. Hmm, I wonder why that is?

Sure, women have some privileges over men. They are privileged in matters of family and emotional health. But you can't claim they are more privileged than men, or even as privileged as men.

women aren't meant to be sexual or promiscuous. this is why when a women goes around and sleeps with a bunch of guys she'll most likely be viewed a lot worse than if a guy went around and sleep with a bunch of girls. think of it, the large majority of the time the girl in the first case would be viewed as a slut but the guy would have been viewed as a "player" or some shit like that.

This is very true. I don't know if this is something to be blamed on men/maleness, though. The words "she's a total slut" tend to come from a woman's lips before they do a man's, in my own experience anyway.

The double-standard exists and is something to fight against, but feminism isn't the cure and I don't know that men are the cause.

Now, this is just alien logic to me. Why the hell would it matter who does the dirty work - it's the fact that discrimination exists that matters, right? Let me repeat something that has been stated more than once in this thread: most feminists are not against men. Most feminists do not blame anything on men as a whole.

Feminists even do things that can help men. Holy cow!

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P.S. I hope you can get past the excessively rude tone of this post. I still love you and all.