Time?

**Your Computer** · 09-30-2012, 09:55 AM

(09-30-2012, 09:49 AM)BAndrew Wrote: Not by itself in terms that we do. Mathematics and logic controls an unconscious entity.

Would it then be safe to say that you would say that logic is itself unconscious? If so, how would you explain how something unconscious can control an entity other than itself?

**BAndrew** · 09-30-2012, 09:58 AM

(09-30-2012, 09:55 AM)Your Computer Wrote:
(09-30-2012, 09:49 AM)BAndrew Wrote: Not by itself in terms that we do. Mathematics and logic controls an unconscious entity.

Would it then be safe to say that you would say that logic is itself unconscious? If so, how would you explain how something unconscious can control an entity other than itself?

No one knows what logic actually is (just like time as this thread is about) so I can't say that it's unconcious or concious. Maybe none of them.

**Robby** · 09-30-2012, 10:05 AM

(09-30-2012, 09:58 AM)BAndrew Wrote: No one knows what logic actually is (just like time as this thread is about) so I can't say that it's unconcious or concious. Maybe none of them.

Then how you'll classify that?

**BAndrew** · 09-30-2012, 10:07 AM

(09-30-2012, 10:05 AM)Nemet Robert Wrote:
(09-30-2012, 09:58 AM)BAndrew Wrote: No one knows what logic actually is (just like time as this thread is about) so I can't say that it's unconcious or concious. Maybe none of them.
Then how you'll classify that?

I honestly don't know. Think of that:

Is time conscious or unconscious? If it is unconscious how can it control everything we do (movement).

Does this mean time is invented by humans?

**Robby** · 09-30-2012, 10:14 AM

That's a barricade question. No known answer.

**BAndrew** · 09-30-2012, 10:22 AM

(09-30-2012, 10:14 AM)Nemet Robert Wrote: That's a barricade question. No known answer.

If you say yes, time is invented by humans then mathematics and logic is invented by humans. By that logic everything is invented by humans and everything is an illusion. I would say that this isn't logical but if logic is itself an illusion... You know what? This isn't getting anywhere. Doesn't make sense.

**Your Computer** · 09-30-2012, 10:51 AM

(09-30-2012, 09:58 AM)BAndrew Wrote: No one knows what logic actually is (just like time as this thread is about) so I can't say that it's unconcious or concious. Maybe none of them.

Even so, we are capable of acknowleding that a conscious implies self-awareness. Would you say logic, math or time carry this attribute? Since there is no known "middle man" between conscious and unconscious, wouldn't it then be safe to declare that those three things are unconscious?

**Robby** · 09-30-2012, 10:51 AM

(09-30-2012, 10:22 AM)BAndrew Wrote: You know what? This isn't getting anywhere. Doesn't make sense.

My brain yelled that since this all began.

**BAndrew** · 09-30-2012, 10:58 AM

(09-30-2012, 10:51 AM)Your Computer Wrote:
(09-30-2012, 09:58 AM)BAndrew Wrote: No one knows what logic actually is (just like time as this thread is about) so I can't say that it's unconcious or concious. Maybe none of them.

Even so, we are capable of acknowleding that a conscious implies self-awareness. Would you say logic, math or time carry this attribute? Since there is no known "middle man" between conscious and unconscious, wouldn't it then be safe to declare that those three things are unconscious?

It's weird. I mean logic,math,time etc aren't concious in the term of self-awareness, but they aren't unconscious in term they don't have an impact on other entities.

**Statyk** · 09-30-2012, 04:56 PM

Just so I can get a better grasp on this, are you two basically saying conscious things come to us naturally and unconscious things must be taught to us? Also, you are saying things either live consciously or unconsciously? If that's the case, are humans the middlemen?