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What hides between Shadow and Light?
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RE: What hides between Shadow and Light?

(01-30-2009, 03:21 AM)jamhaw Wrote:
(12-23-2008, 08:56 PM)Kedjane Wrote: Oh, didn't notice the submit button until now. Anyone tried to figure out the code yet?

What do you think will hapen if someone submits the correct answer?

More scandolous pictures of Jens, lol.

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01-30-2009, 10:29 AM
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RE: What hides between Shadow and Light?

I don't there are any correct answer. The submit button is just there to tease us. Big Grin:

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RE: What hides between Shadow and Light?

I think there is, but that what it is... Hmm... Something related to Penumbra maybe? Tongue: Wink:

01-30-2009, 11:39 AM
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RE: What hides between Shadow and Light?

Don't know if the puzzle has been solved yet (I'm visiting these forums for the first time), but I thought of how Fibonacci might relate to the numbers. If you take the beginning of the Fibonacci sequence 0,1,1,2,3,5,8 then you can group the numbers into rows by length:

3,
9,
7, 4,
8, 9, 5,
7, 11, 6, 6, 13,
7, 8, 6, 9, 6, 11, 8, 13,

Don't know what could be done with that, though.
02-27-2009, 02:05 AM
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RE: What hides between Shadow and Light?

Some thoughts: you could take only the letters from the alphabet that are fibonacci numbers
1 A
2 B
3 C
5 E
8 H
13 M
21 U

The transformations (results are also fibonacci numbers):

20 T -> B 2 ( 2+0 = 2 )
3 C -> C 3 ( 3=3 )
17 Q -> H 8 (1+7 = 8)
02-27-2009, 07:25 PM
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RE: What hides between Shadow and Light?

(02-27-2009, 07:25 PM)Villane Wrote: Some thoughts: you could take only the letters from the alphabet that are fibonacci numbers
1 A
2 B
3 C
5 E
8 H
13 M
21 U

The transformations (results are also fibonacci numbers):

20 T -> B 2 ( 2+0 = 2 )
3 C -> C 3 ( 3=3 )
17 Q -> H 8 (1+7 = 8)

Nice find mate!

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I've managed to find some neat results looking at the second part.

[Image: English-slf2.PNG]
This chart represents the percent of letter frequency in English.
Now, imagine it as a graph from left to right. It looks pretty linear (maybe guassian).

When I did the same chart for this text:
Quote:YNGPPUZFVKJZIDSTCWIZVYIDFYVQOPSBAVJUIUNJVPLIFRMHMZQDFABMNWMMLRYSWAQAZRSXQEDMJWHS​G
VJBSFJVTCSVVCPFIMGMUNSOCOQGRRJUCAVIS
This is what I get:
[Image: Picture_08032009221219.jpg]

The two graphs represent how "fast" frequency of the letters change.

It looks pretty similar (which basicially shoudln't if that would be encrypted, random or whatever).
For example, md5 or sha hashes would look totally different.

In my opinion it means the text is ciphered (not encrypted).

We just need to replace the letters somehow. Does anybody knows any law that could help?

Stuff that might/will be useful:
http://www.letterfrequency.org/
http://www.mcld.co.uk/decipher/

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Edit:
Not sure but all of it might have something with this:
Fibonacci Alphabet
Fibonacci Cryptography
I've found on the internet piece of code to decipher Fibonacci cryption and it did work on examples (which looked exactly the same as on nextfrictionalgame.com) but no result. It gave random letters.
However, he is the example of code (not mine):
PHP Code: (Select All)
str "UMTPORMHTRNSDCYTDTIEPREITIPATAGRAIBS"
count 0
length 
len(str)/2
while count<length:
  print 
str[len(str)-1-count],
  print 
str[count],
  
count+=
Result: S U B M I T A P R O G R A M T H A T P R I N T S I D E C R Y P T E D I T

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Edit 2:
In my opinion those numbers:
Quote:Line 1:
3, 9, 7, 4, 8, 9, 5, 7, 11, 6, 6, 13, 7, (longer)

Line 2:
8, 6, 9, 6, 11, 8, 13, (shorter)

probably is connected to:
Quote:Line 1:
YNGPPUZFVKJZIDSTCWIZVYIDFYVQOPSBAVJUIUNJVPLIFRMHMZQDFABMNWMMLRYSWAQAZRSXQEDMJWHSG (longer)

Line 2:
VJBSFJVTCSVVCPFIMGMUNSOCOQGRRJUCAVIS (shorter)

This might be coincidence, but why would they split up the line those two lines? It's not automaticly made (wrapped) because in source code there is a "<br/>" which stands for a new line.

Considering that we don't have the spaces given between those messy letters, probably the numbers are telling somehow where the spaces should be. Average of these numbers are not similar to the average word length in English (which is 5.10).
However, as someone said before "1, -1, 2" (sequence that appears in those numbers) probably mean something else.
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03-08-2009, 11:21 PM
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RE: What hides between Shadow and Light?

Wow are you guys scientist or something? Is Fibonnaci from a Frictional game or real life?
03-20-2009, 06:02 AM
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RE: What hides between Shadow and Light?

(03-20-2009, 06:02 AM)cdoublejj Wrote: Wow are you guys scientist or something? Is Fibonnaci from a Frictional game or real life?

Lets face it, alot of people have alot of time on their hands, and on the net by the looks of things.

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03-20-2009, 06:44 AM
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RE: What hides between Shadow and Light?

Umbra: The darker shadow, a total Eclipse
Penumbra: The lighter shadow, partial eclipse
These names are the same whether it is a Solar or Lunar Eclipse
"The Moon casts a dark shadow upon the Earth" speaks of a Solar Eclipse.

Fibonacci numbers are expressed in nature (one of many ways) through his Rabbit experiment.
Perhaps the hole digging creatures referred to in the anagram sentence are Rabbits?

Found this in the page source below the hints, note the part that says: name="answer"
I'm not a programmer so i don't know how all this works but to me it looks like it says that the name of the game is the answer we seek.

<div id="containerForm">
<form action="checkentry.php" method="post">
<input type="text" name="answer" size="24"/> &nbsp; &nbsp; <input type="submit" value="Submit"/>

</form>
</div>
03-25-2009, 02:07 AM
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RE: What hides between Shadow and Light?

they are sweden or danish, so why are you even looking at an english answer, its probably the cipher of their native language Tongue
03-27-2009, 03:52 AM
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