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[RowdyPants]

and hey ! how "funny" is it that FG do not involve in this thread at all :/

Check out the first few pages of this thread. Urkle, Plutomaniac, and Jens did look into this. Urkle was able to reproduce the hang and decided the game must be getting stuck in AI code. While I know that is the worst kind of debugging headache it's been months and certainly long enough to fix the code. If I can remedy a few more issues I'll send out my temp solution.

[7heDubz]

I have a solution which is meant to provide some amount of comedic relief while still ringing true for the topic at hand. And is also completely unhelpful.

Get a fucking windows computer.
(or run through a windows environment preferably the first,)

[Mudbill]

I have a solution which is meant to provide some amount of comedic relief while still ringing true for the topic at hand. And is also completely unhelpful.

Get a fucking windows computer.
(or run through a windows environment preferably the first,)

That was unnecessary. You probably just offended everyone who prefers using a Mac and don't want to pay again for a Windows version.

[Romulator]

good job man ! that's makes FG looks even more dumb? lazy? arrogant?
After successful refund from Apple, I'll be more than happy to buy YOUR version (from YOU not them obviously)

The WelcomeMessage05 error itself is rather minor however. In fact, on the Windows version, it is still provided as an error.

The PreMenu is a screen which is seen before the main menu on the first load. A Machine For Pigs doesn't use a PreMenu at all, which does not change much in terms of the game itself nor its content - rather an output which does not need to be outputted.

Now, I said "does not need". I'm not saying that it was unnecessary to make that change, but it does not exactly change anything major.

[Kappa048487127]

That was unnecessary. You probably just offended everyone who prefers using a Mac

There's a reason why most gamers use Windows over anything else, because it works. You have a solution right in front of you. Either use it, or wait for the sleeping giant FG to wake up, and hopefully fix this mess.

and don't want to pay again for a Windows version.

Vote with your wallet. FG has shown little to no interest in fixing the game for sometime now. The game is nearly a year old, and still isn't properly working on all platforms.

[Mudbill]

That was unnecessary. You probably just offended everyone who prefers using a Mac

There's a reason why most gamers use Windows over anything else, because it works. You have a solution right in front of you. Either use it, or wait for the sleeping giant FG to wake up, and hopefully fix this mess.

People develop for Windows because that's what the majority of people use and they want their game to be available to the largest amount of people with the lowest amount of effort. Windows also has DirectX/Direct3D which, in my experience is a stronger renderer than OpenGL, but not supported on other systems. If something is developed for the Xbox consoles, it most likely uses DirectX too anyway.

If someone develops a game in OpenGL, the game might be easily exported to other platforms. In my experience, again, most games in OpenGL generally run better on Macs than on Windows.

But back to what you said, this is not a solution in any way. It's an alternative. It doesn't at all fix the issue that the Mac version is messed up, nor does it provide a workaround. It merely tells Mac users that they're screwed while lingering on the PC master race tone. At least that's how I interpreted the comment, so excuse me if I'm wrong.

[Kappa048487127]

A Mac is technically a Personal Computer is it not?

[Mudbill]

You know what I mean, so why question it? I doubt you've never heard of "PC master race."

[Kappa048487127]

It merely tells Mac users that they're screwed while lingering on the PC master race tone.

Well you are essentially screwed until FG decides to fix their mess, or someone comes up with a homemade fix. The fact of the matter is the Windows version works properly, and the Mac version doesn't.

You know what I mean, so why question it?

Because you're acting like the Mac is something other than a PC, and that's simply not true.

I doubt you've never heard of "PC master race."

I have, but I think it's pretty stupid. I am going to be buying a PS3 for the sake of Persona 5, and KH soon myself. Technically speaking a Mac is part of the PC Master Race (if you buy into that crap).

I think it's really shitty what FG has done (or to be more specific hasn't done) to it's Mac audience, but what good does bitching about it do? Sure you have some makeshift fix in the works, but it's not going to compare to what an official patch would do, or so I doubt it.

[Mudbill]

It merely tells Mac users that they're screwed while lingering on the PC master race tone.

Well you are essentially screwed until FG decides to fix their mess, or someone comes up with a homemade fix. The fact of the matter is the Windows version works properly, and the Mac version doesn't.

You got a point there.

You know what I mean, so why question it?

Because you're acting like the Mac is something, but a PC, and that's simply not true.

I doubt you've never heard of "PC master race."

I have, but I think it's pretty stupid. I am going to be buying a PS3 for the sake of Persona 5, and KH soon myself. Technically speaking a Mac is part of the PC Master Race (if you buy into that crap).

I don't like to be a smartass and point out these small details. I know very well a Mac is technically a PC, but mostly everyone separate them; Mac vs PC for example. I simply do it because I expect that people know the common sayings. This time I wasn't even talking about Macs though, just the phrase where it's said. "PC master race" is just the elitist $3000 custom built PC gamers who think everyone else are scrubs, including console AND Mac users.

I think it's really shitty what FG has done (or to be more specific hasn't done) to it's Mac audience, but what good does bitching about it do? Sure you have some makeshift fix in the works, but it's not going to compare to what an official patch would do, or so I doubt it.

All I'm saying is that having to buy and install Windows (in addition to the computer itself if you don't run Boot Camp) as well as buying the game again FOR Windows is not a solution to the problem this game runs into on Mac. To be more specific, this issue only seems to happen to the Mac App Store release, so Steam might work. There are issues altogether with both Amnesias on Mavericks though, but that's a different problem. Either way, I do agree it's bad FG has not fixed this yet. If they are unable too, they can't just keep selling the broken game.