Missing Valve

**VampLena** · 09-27-2010, 01:30 AM

I dont know why my other post got moved or whatever, but i need help here with the missing valve in the Sewer Cistern. This looks like a bug, every walkthru i look at says it should be right there.

If no one can help me, how can i go about getting in touch with Friction directly for help?

Here is my hlp.log

Spoiler below!

**Thomas** · 09-27-2010, 07:41 AM

use F8 to take a screenshot of the location (screen is saved in install folder) and the attach it to a post.

**VampLena** · 09-27-2010, 12:15 PM

Thanks for your reply, here is a picture of the problem area.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/54251017@N02/5021838902/

**jens** · 09-27-2010, 12:21 PM

I think you will have to replay from a save from before you entered the cistern the first time. Then to make sure it works, go to this valve first and make sure it is there. Usually thiscould be caused by a corrupt file, but as you have the other three valves (that are the same files) it might be some sort of strange load/save error.

Any chance that you had been to Cistern, then you updated to 1.01 with the patch? When playing again after the patch you got this bug?

**VampLena** · 09-27-2010, 10:00 PM

Thanks for the reply, I will try going back to a earlier save. I was afraid of that.

I had gotten this problem before I updated to the 1.01 patch, however even after putting in the patch the problem didnt go away.

Edit> Just my luck, i have no saves before entering the Cistern. So Now I have to start the game over again Argh. This is really frustrating.

**Zanderat** · 09-28-2010, 03:20 AM

I take back my initial skepticism. I can confirm this bug. Am using 1.01.

Spoiler below!

Quote:Version 1.10 - s1A99C485-539
-------- THE HPL ENGINE LOG ------------
Engine build ID 20100818114615

Creating Engine Modules
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Creating graphics module
Creating system module
Creating resource module
Creating input module
Creating sound module
Creating physics module
Creating ai module
Creating gui module
Creating generate module
Creating haptic module
Creating scene module
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Initializing Resources Module
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Creating loader handlers
Creating resource managers
Adding loaders to handlers
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Initializing Graphics Module
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Init lowlevel graphics: 1600x1200 bpp:32 fs:1 ms:0 gpufmt:2 cap:'Amnesia - The Dark Descent - Loading...' pos-1x-1)
Setting video mode: 1600 x 1200 - 32 bpp
Init Glew...OK
Setting up OpenGL
Vendor: ATI Technologies Inc.
Renderer: ATI Radeon HD 5700 Series
Version: 4.0.10151 Compatibility Profile Context
Max texture image units: 16
Max texture coord units: 16
Max user clip planes: 8
Two sided stencil: 1
Vertex Buffer Object: 1
Anisotropic filtering: 1
Max Anisotropic degree: 16
Multisampling: 1
Texture compression: 1
Texture compression S3TC: 1
Auto generate MipMaps: 1
Render to texture: 1
Max draw buffers: 8
Max color render targets: 8
Packed depth-stencil: 1
Texture float: 1
GLSL Version: 4.00
ShaderModel 2: 1
ShaderModel 3: 1
ShaderModel 4: 1
OGL ATIFragmentShader: 1
Setting up G-Bugger: type: 0 texturenum: 3
Adding engine materials
Initializing DevIL
Vendor String: Abysmal Software
Version String: Developer's Image Library (DevIL) 1.6.8pre Aug 12 2006
Version Number: 168
Adding engine post effects
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Initializing Sound Module
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Initializing OpenAL
Available OpenAL devices:
0. Generic Hardware on Speakers (2- Creative SB X-Fi)
1. Generic Software on Speakers (2- Creative SB X-Fi)
2. SB X-Fi Audio [E800](OpenAL default)
Trying to open device 'SB X-Fi Audio [E800]'... Success!
Number of mono sources: 128
Streaming setup: 4 Buffers x 262144 bytes each
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Initializing Game Module
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Adding engine updates
Initializing script functions
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User Initialization
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Game Running
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-------- Loading map 'menu_bg.map' ---------
Cache Loading: 1155 ms
Entities: 224 ms
Compilation: 1 ms
Total: 1389 ms
Meshes created: 25
Bodies created: 5
-------- Loading complete ---------
Setting profile: 'Zanderat' Path: 'C:\Users\Chris\Documents/Amnesia/Main/Zanderat/'
-------- BEGIN LOAD FROM C:\Users\Chris\Documents/Amnesia/Main/Zanderat/AutoSave_Cistern_2010_9_25_22_21_58_0.sav ---------
LOADING SAVE GAME!
-------- Loading map '18_cistern.map' ---------
Cache Loading: 2815 ms
Entities: 359 ms
Compilation: 24 ms
Total: 3428 ms
Meshes created: 285
Bodies created: 97
-------- Loading complete ---------
WARNING: Could not find player start node ''
ERROR: StartPos '' does not exist!
-------- END LOAD ---------
ERROR: Could not find sound entity 'sound_steam_deadly2'
ERROR: Could not find sound entity 'sound_steam_deadly3'
ERROR: Could not find sound entity 'sound_steam_deadly1'
ERROR: Could not find sound entity 'sound_steam_deadly2'
ERROR: Could not find sound entity 'sound_steam_deadly3'
-------- Loading map 'menu_bg.map' ---------
Cache Loading: 1097 ms
Entities: 202 ms
Compilation: 1 ms
Total: 1309 ms
Meshes created: 25
Bodies created: 5
-------- Loading complete ---------
-------- BEGIN LOAD FROM C:\Users\Chris\Documents/Amnesia/Main/Zanderat/AutoSave_Cistern_2010_9_25_22_21_58_0.sav ---------
LOADING SAVE GAME!
-------- Loading map '18_cistern.map' ---------
Cache Loading: 2766 ms
Entities: 361 ms
Compilation: 24 ms
Total: 3382 ms
Meshes created: 285
Bodies created: 97
-------- Loading complete ---------
WARNING: Could not find player start node ''
ERROR: StartPos '' does not exist!
-------- END LOAD ---------
ERROR: Could not find sound entity 'sound_steam_deadly2'
ERROR: Could not find sound entity 'sound_steam_deadly3'
ERROR: Could not find sound entity 'sound_steam_deadly1'
ERROR: Could not find sound entity 'sound_steam_deadly2'
ERROR: Could not find sound entity 'sound_steam_deadly3'
ERROR: Could not find sound entity 'sound_steam_deadly1'
ERROR: Could not find sound entity 'sound_steam_deadly2'
ERROR: Could not find sound entity 'sound_steam_deadly3'
ERROR: Could not find sound entity 'sound_steam_deadly1'
ERROR: Could not find sound entity 'sound_steam_deadly2'
ERROR: Could not find sound entity 'sound_steam_deadly3'
ERROR: Could not find sound entity 'sound_steam_deadly1'
ERROR: Could not find sound entity 'sound_steam_deadly2'
ERROR: Could not find sound entity 'sound_steam_deadly3'
ERROR: Could not find sound entity 'sound_steam_deadly1'
ERROR: Could not find sound entity 'sound_steam_deadly2'
ERROR: Could not find sound entity 'sound_steam_deadly3'
ERROR: Could not find sound entity 'sound_steam_deadly1'
ERROR: Could not find sound entity 'sound_steam_deadly2'
ERROR: Could not find sound entity 'sound_steam_deadly3'
ERROR: Could not find sound entity 'sound_steam_deadly1'
ERROR: Could not find sound entity 'sound_steam_deadly2'
ERROR: Could not find sound entity 'sound_steam_deadly3'
ERROR: Could not find sound entity 'sound_steam_deadly2'
ERROR: Could not find sound entity 'sound_steam_deadly1'
ERROR: Could not find sound entity 'sound_steam_deadly3'
ERROR: Could not find sound entity 'sound_steam_deadly2'
ERROR: Could not find sound entity 'sound_steam_deadly1'
ERROR: Could not find sound entity 'sound_steam_deadly3'
ERROR: Could not find sound entity 'sound_steam_deadly2'
ERROR: Could not find sound entity 'sound_steam_deadly1'
ERROR: Could not find sound entity 'sound_steam_deadly2'
ERROR: Could not find sound entity 'sound_steam_deadly3'
ERROR: Could not find sound entity 'sound_steam_deadly1'
ERROR: Could not find sound entity 'sound_steam_deadly2'
ERROR: Could not find sound entity 'sound_steam_deadly1'
ERROR: Could not find sound entity 'sound_steam_deadly3'
ERROR: Could not find sound entity 'sound_steam_deadly2'
ERROR: Could not find sound entity 'sound_steam_deadly1'
ERROR: Could not find sound entity 'sound_steam_deadly3'
ERROR: Could not find sound entity 'sound_steam_deadly2'
ERROR: Could not find sound entity 'sound_steam_deadly1'
ERROR: Could not find sound entity 'sound_steam_deadly3'
ERROR: Could not find sound entity 'sound_steam_deadly2'
ERROR: Could not find sound entity 'sound_steam_deadly1'
ERROR: Could not find sound entity 'sound_steam_deadly3'
ERROR: Could not find sound entity 'sound_steam_deadly2'
ERROR: Could not find sound entity 'sound_steam_deadly1'
ERROR: Could not find sound entity 'sound_steam_deadly3'
ERROR: Could not find sound entity 'sound_steam_deadly2'
ERROR: Could not find sound entity 'sound_steam_deadly1'
ERROR: Could not find sound entity 'sound_steam_deadly3'
-------- Loading map 'menu_bg.map' ---------
Cache Loading: 1099 ms
Entities: 206 ms
Compilation: 0 ms
Total: 1316 ms
Meshes created: 25
Bodies created: 5
-------- Loading complete ---------
-------- BEGIN LOAD FROM C:\Users\Chris\Documents/Amnesia/Main/Zanderat/AutoSave_Cistern_2010_9_25_22_21_58_0.sav ---------
LOADING SAVE GAME!
-------- Loading map '18_cistern.map' ---------
Cache Loading: 2776 ms
Entities: 364 ms
Compilation: 23 ms
Total: 3394 ms
Meshes created: 285
Bodies created: 97
-------- Loading complete ---------
WARNING: Could not find player start node ''
ERROR: StartPos '' does not exist!
-------- END LOAD ---------
ERROR: Could not find sound entity 'sound_steam_deadly2'
ERROR: Could not find sound entity 'sound_steam_deadly3'
ERROR: Could not find sound entity 'sound_steam_deadly1'
ERROR: Could not find sound entity 'sound_steam_deadly2'
ERROR: Could not find sound entity 'sound_steam_deadly3'
ERROR: Could not find sound entity 'sound_steam_deadly1'
ERROR: Could not find sound entity 'sound_steam_deadly2'
ERROR: Could not find sound entity 'sound_steam_deadly3'
ERROR: Could not find sound entity 'sound_steam_deadly1'
ERROR: Could not find sound entity 'sound_steam_deadly2'
ERROR: Could not find sound entity 'sound_steam_deadly3'
ERROR: Could not find sound entity 'sound_steam_deadly1'
ERROR: Could not find sound entity 'sound_steam_deadly2'
ERROR: Could not find sound entity 'sound_steam_deadly3'
ERROR: Could not find sound entity 'sound_steam_deadly1'
ERROR: Could not find sound entity 'sound_steam_deadly2'
ERROR: Could not find sound entity 'sound_steam_deadly3'
ERROR: Could not find sound entity 'sound_steam_deadly1'
ERROR: Could not find sound entity 'sound_steam_deadly2'
ERROR: Could not find sound entity 'sound_steam_deadly3'
ERROR: Could not find sound entity 'sound_steam_deadly1'
ERROR: Could not find sound entity 'sound_steam_deadly2'
ERROR: Could not find sound entity 'sound_steam_deadly3'
ERROR: Could not find sound entity 'sound_steam_deadly2'
ERROR: Could not find sound entity 'sound_steam_deadly1'
ERROR: Could not find sound entity 'sound_steam_deadly3'
ERROR: Could not find sound entity 'sound_steam_deadly2'
ERROR: Could not find sound entity 'sound_steam_deadly1'
ERROR: Could not find sound entity 'sound_steam_deadly3'
ERROR: Could not find sound entity 'sound_steam_deadly2'
ERROR: Could not find sound entity 'sound_steam_deadly1'
ERROR: Could not find sound entity 'sound_steam_deadly2'
ERROR: Could not find sound entity 'sound_steam_deadly3'
ERROR: Could not find sound entity 'sound_steam_deadly1'
ERROR: Could not find sound entity 'sound_steam_deadly2'
ERROR: Could not find sound entity 'sound_steam_deadly1'
ERROR: Could not find sound entity 'sound_steam_deadly3'
ERROR: Could not find sound entity 'sound_steam_deadly2'
ERROR: Could not find sound entity 'sound_steam_deadly1'
ERROR: Could not find sound entity 'sound_steam_deadly3'
ERROR: Could not find sound entity 'sound_steam_deadly2'
ERROR: Could not find sound entity 'sound_steam_deadly1'
ERROR: Could not find sound entity 'sound_steam_deadly3'
ERROR: Could not find sound entity 'sound_steam_deadly2'
ERROR: Could not find sound entity 'sound_steam_deadly1'
ERROR: Could not find sound entity 'sound_steam_deadly3'
ERROR: Could not find sound entity 'sound_steam_deadly2'
ERROR: Could not find sound entity 'sound_steam_deadly1'
ERROR: Could not find sound entity 'sound_steam_deadly3'
ERROR: Could not find sound entity 'sound_steam_deadly2'
ERROR: Could not find sound entity 'sound_steam_deadly1'
ERROR: Could not find sound entity 'sound_steam_deadly3'
ERROR: Could not find sound entity 'sound_steam_deadly2'
ERROR: Could not find sound entity 'sound_steam_deadly1'
ERROR: Could not find sound entity 'sound_steam_deadly3'
ERROR: Could not find sound entity 'sound_steam_deadly2'
ERROR: Could not find sound entity 'sound_steam_deadly1'
ERROR: Could not find sound entity 'sound_steam_deadly3'
ERROR: Could not find sound entity 'sound_steam_deadly2'
-------- Loading map 'menu_bg.map' ---------
Cache Loading: 1098 ms
Entities: 204 ms
Compilation: 0 ms
Total: 1312 ms
Meshes created: 25
Bodies created: 5
-------- Loading complete ---------
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Statistics
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Medium framerate: 35.203664
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User Exit
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Saving main config.
Saving user config.
Deleting game modules.
'LuxInputHandler'
'LuxHelpFuncs'
'LuxSaveHandler'
'LuxScriptHandler'
'LuxProgressLogHandler'
'LuxMapHandler'
'LuxMapHelper'
'LuxPlayer'
'LuxInsanityHandler'
'LuxDebugHandler'
'LuxEffectRenderer'
'LuxMusicHandler'
'LuxMusicHandler'
'LuxEffectHandler'
'LuxCompletionCountHandler'
'LuxGlobalDataHandler'
'LuxHintHandler'
'LuxPostEffectHandler'
'LuxPreMenu'
'LuxDebugHandler'
'LuxInventory'
'LuxJournal'
'LuxCredits'
'LuxLoadScreenHandler'
Deleting config files.
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Exiting Gui Module
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Deleting all sets
Deleting all skins
Deleting all gfx elements
Deleting all materials
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Exiting Generate Module
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Exiting Scene Module
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Exiting Input Module
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Exiting Sound Module
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Exiting Graphics Module
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Exiting Resources Module
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Done with fonts
Done with scripts
Done with particles
Done with sounds
Done with meshes
Done with materials
Done with Gpu programs
Done with images
Destroyed all textures
Done with sound entities
Done with animations
Done with ent files
All resources deleted
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Exiting Physics Module
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Exiting System Module
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Deleting game setup provided by user
- Deleting lowlevel stuff.
Physics
Sound
Input
Resources
System
Graphics
Haptic
HPL Exit was successful!

|--Memory Manager Report-------------------------------|
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| No memory leaks detected. Memory left: 0
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**Thomas** · 09-28-2010, 07:30 AM

VampLena:
Note that this only applies the the Cistern map (the level with the valves and water) and NOT Cistern Entrance. Unless you have run in and out of that map 10 times or so, there must be save games from before you first entered. Check "Load Game" in main menu.

Zanderat:
As Jens says, it is a problem that arises when loading a save game made with version 1.0 in the 1.0.1 game version. I am afraid it is not much we can do about it.

**Zanderat** · 09-28-2010, 12:58 PM

Hmm. Was this indicated in the patch notes? I must have missed it the part where it said saves from 1.0 were incompatible with 1.01.

If I reinstall w/o the patch would that work?

Quote:Print
Views: 6396
Posted: 22 Sep, 2010
by: Nilsson J.
Updated: 22 Sep, 2010
by: Nilsson J.

This patch is for any previous version of Amnesia: The Dark Descent.
Download the 1.0.1 update!

IMPORTANT: This update should work with all Amnesia releases that uses our serial system. If you have bought the game on for example Steam, use Steam to update the game.

--Change log--
1.0.1
level00
-Going into cave and into the void.
-In the passage with stabs, possible to look under floor.
level01
-Torch goes through wall.
level02
-The web reappears if leaving the level and entering a gain after using acid.
-Texture fixes.
level03
-Falling out of level in corner.
-Carpet with dirt on it.
level07
-Water thing might be less prone to attack on boxes. Might.
-Texture fixes.
level09
-Texture fixes.
-No colliders on bottom of stairs in main room
level12
-Fixed door in wall.
-Fire gives damage.
level13
-Getting stuck behind machine.
level15 N/S
-Can jump through the gap in the floor without widening it.
-Falling out of map by cavein and in a crypt wall.
-Pushed out of level by grunt.
-Magnetic boxes.
level 18
-Saved the valve that was forgotten.
-Texture fixes.
level 22/27
-Texture fixes.
-Capture improvements.
-Going through railing.
-Less chance of circle running.
level 24
-Texture fixes.
-Found some "on the moon" objects.
level25
-Repositioned some red slime web.
Menu
-Pressing ESC while binding a new key ends up in quite the predicament.
-Improved binding to mouse buttons beyond the first 3
Extra
-Herbery diary part 3 distorts.
Language
-New page tag in italian translation.
-Misc english translation fixes.
-English manual minor fixes.
-Minor german translation fix.
Technical
- Fix for ATI X 1000-series
- Forced cache loading (increases load speed)
- Draw buffers enabled in gbuffer shaders (fixes issues on some cards)
- Fixed ladder climbing crash bug
- Fixed item combine crash bug
- The crash flag check is removed.
- Rotation interaction now works better with mouse smoothing off.
- Fixed wheel-rope connection save bug
- Lean does not interfere with scripting
- Lancher saves log file to proper folder
- Some settings are now properly saved to cfg files.

**Thomas** · 09-28-2010, 01:07 PM

Zanderat:
It was not known until recently. And it will work with older version provided that you do not load a game saved with 1.0.1

In any case, loading a map prior to entering the cistern should work fine (remember I mean "Cistern" and not "Cistern Entrance".

**Zanderat** · 09-28-2010, 01:15 PM

Well, the auto save system only saves 20 times. So no luck there. I requested a save game in the spoiler forum. http://www.frictionalgames.com/forum/thread-4800.html

We will see how it goes. Thanks. No worries. I know bugs happen.