Slenderman Monster

**candlejack131** · 08-31-2012, 06:16 AM

I feel as if i am almost rooting out the problem. I realized that the model that i have for this already came with an ENT and the ent for the "original" unedited model and by this i mean before i even changed it to an enemy_grunt has no bones in it. So how did my original modeler create this ent? Is my model viewer crashing because my new version has no ent? Or do i need to edit an already changed model instead of the original unedited. Or should i recreate an entire new ent for my model or edit they existing? Then again if the ent has nothing to do with it then what I'm saying would be entirely pointless wouldn't it.

**xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx** · 08-31-2012, 07:11 AM

Quote: So how did my original modeler create this ent?

Probably by using the Model Editor.

Quote: Is my model viewer crashing because my new version has no ent?

You should be able to load a .dae file into the model viewer, too, as far as I know. You can of course try to create an .ent first and see if you can load that. (Or is the Model Editor crashing too?)

Which makes me think - why do you need to have the model in the model viewer at all? I mean, it's just that - a VIEWER right? So can't you just create your .ent file with the model editor and throw that into your level without using the viewer at all?
(Or maybe I'm talking bullshit again because I don't know anything about the pipeline that comes after exporting from Maya. If that's the case, Statyk or whoever is still lurking in this thread, please just hit me in the face with a frying pan or something.)

**Obliviator27** · 08-31-2012, 01:52 PM

(08-31-2012, 07:11 AM)Hirnwirbel Wrote:
Quote: So how did my original modeler create this ent?
Probably by using the Model Editor.

Quote: Is my model viewer crashing because my new version has no ent?
You should be able to load a .dae file into the model viewer, too, as far as I know. You can of course try to create an .ent first and see if you can load that. (Or is the Model Editor crashing too?)

Which makes me think - why do you need to have the model in the model viewer at all? I mean, it's just that - a VIEWER right? So can't you just create your .ent file with the model editor and throw that into your level without using the viewer at all?
(Or maybe I'm talking bullshit again because I don't know anything about the pipeline that comes after exporting from Maya. If that's the case, Statyk or whoever is still lurking in this thread, please just hit me in the face with a frying pan or something.)

The pipeline is as such.

Entities
Export the .dae from Maya.
Create a .mat file from your various textures.
Open the Model Editor.
File> Import Mesh > Select your mesh.
Do whatever it is you need to do to the model (add bodies, attach lights, change the User Defined Settings to make it whatever you need, be it swingdoor, lamp, whatever.)
Save the .ent
Open the Level Editor.
Open your map.
Go to Entities and find your model, then place it in game.

Static Objects.
Export the .dae from Maya
Create the .mat file from your textures.
Open the Level Editor.
Open your map.
Go to Static Objects and find your model, then place in game.

The Modelviewer is handy for if you're consistently making tweaks to your .dae file, as you can open the .dae in the modelviewer and just hit the reload button. That, or if you want to check out a Static Object you have made without opening the level editor.

If your modelviewer is crashing, you can easily check the Modelview.log file to find out what's wrong with your .dae file.

**candlejack131** · 09-01-2012, 09:28 PM

(08-31-2012, 01:52 PM)Obliviator27 Wrote:
(08-31-2012, 07:11 AM)Hirnwirbel Wrote:
Quote: So how did my original modeler create this ent?
Probably by using the Model Editor.

Quote: Is my model viewer crashing because my new version has no ent?
You should be able to load a .dae file into the model viewer, too, as far as I know. You can of course try to create an .ent first and see if you can load that. (Or is the Model Editor crashing too?)

Which makes me think - why do you need to have the model in the model viewer at all? I mean, it's just that - a VIEWER right? So can't you just create your .ent file with the model editor and throw that into your level without using the viewer at all?
(Or maybe I'm talking bullshit again because I don't know anything about the pipeline that comes after exporting from Maya. If that's the case, Statyk or whoever is still lurking in this thread, please just hit me in the face with a frying pan or something.)
The pipeline is as such.

Entities
Export the .dae from Maya.
Create a .mat file from your various textures.
Open the Model Editor.
File> Import Mesh > Select your mesh.
Do whatever it is you need to do to the model (add bodies, attach lights, change the User Defined Settings to make it whatever you need, be it swingdoor, lamp, whatever.)
Save the .ent
Open the Level Editor.
Open your map.
Go to Entities and find your model, then place it in game.

Static Objects.
Export the .dae from Maya
Create the .mat file from your textures.
Open the Level Editor.
Open your map.
Go to Static Objects and find your model, then place in game.

The Modelviewer is handy for if you're consistently making tweaks to your .dae file, as you can open the .dae in the modelviewer and just hit the reload button. That, or if you want to check out a Static Object you have made without opening the level editor.

If your modelviewer is crashing, you can easily check the Modelview.log file to find out what's wrong with your .dae file.

I imported my mesh in the modeleditor and got an error it did allow me to copy this information on it however

Spoiler below!

Maybe that will help. Does any one have an idea what might be wrong with it?
WOW that post was..ALOT larger then i expected

**candlejack131** · 09-01-2012, 10:17 PM

Ye again i didn't expect it to turn out so large it was pretty small when i viewed it in the crash ill probably delete that if it isn't of any help

How can i turn it into a spoiler? I really don't know

**Kman** · 09-01-2012, 11:13 PM

Use [.spoiler] *wall of text* [./spoiler] but remove the periods.

**candlejack131** · 09-01-2012, 11:44 PM

Ok thanks i updated it

**Obliviator27** · 09-02-2012, 01:05 AM

Load the .dae in ModelView. If/when it crashes, post the Modelview.log, not the information from the crash menu.

**candlejack131** · 09-02-2012, 02:21 AM

I don't get a normal crash from the viewer like i did the editor in the editor i was given what i'm "assuming" was the log but for the viewer it just tells me the modelviewer.exe has stopped working i opened up the file labeled modelviewer.log but not to sure what i do from there

I did just find this in the log

Spoiler below!

I wasnt sure what the log was but then i realized there was an actual file called .log man do i feel stupid but ye i posted what it said about my enemy

**candlejack131** · 09-02-2012, 11:58 PM

So i posted the error I found in the log does any one know how to fix it