Amnesia: A Machine For Pigs Discussion Topic Part 3

[Peci]

droog, I watched Apocalypto and I absolutely loved it. Maybe "love" isn't a suitable word for such a gruesome movie but we are on a horror forum.

It gave me new weird ideas about the plot.

I posted a photo of the trophy room earlier. If it's Oswald's, it tells that he travels around the world to hunt big game. There is an animal missing, which is one of the rarest cats on earth - the black jaguar. According to one website, even today, no one has been able to photograph one in the wild. Surely Oswald would want that kind of a creature to his collection?

I mentioned Lacandon Jungle in Mexico before. Of course present day and year 1899 is a little different, but "Lacandon is still the largest montane rainforest in North America and one of the last ones left large enough to support jaguars" (wikipedia).

Lacandon Jungle also has some other aspects. In addition to tons of Mayan archeological sites, there lives a certain group of people:

"The Lacandon are one of the Maya peoples who live in the jungles of the Mexican state of Chiapas. The Lacandon are one of the most isolated and culturally conservative of Mexico's native peoples. While other Indians were living under the control of the Spanish, the Lacandon lived independently deep in the tropical forest." Only since the last 30-40 years (1970+) they have been starting to be in more contact with outsiders. There have been all kinds of stories about their religious practises. They have also mixed Catholic stuff to Mayan practises.

The jaguar (especially the black one) is super-sacred creature for the Mayans. Perhaps Oswald hunted the wrong creature.

Also. Waaay back in this thread someone linked a pic of a wooden pig idol (before me). That was a Chiapas mask.

[Tillion Magnet]

Interesting tweets. A little disappointed he didn't comment on the game's 'scare level' though. To be honest we haven't had much focus from anywhere put on how scary the game actually is, more on the story than anything else.

Which is fine if they want to keep it a surprise, but it's still a little disconcerting to me.

Why disconcerting? The game is a survival horror, and has the Amnesia title. The scary part is a given, it's how the horror and the story interwove that makes it far more interesting than just Boo!

I said that because it's been a long time since we had any information on how AMFP would bring the fear, or even any reference towards the game being scary at all. Yes, the Amnesia label would lead one to assume that, but that aspect of the game has been distinctly left out of focus for a while now, instead almost entirely focused on gameplay changes and the story.

Which isn't to say I'm worried it won't be scary at all, just that I was getting a niggling feeling this Amnesia would not have such a focus on scaring the player as much as the original did.

[felixmole]

I'd like to play an Amnesia with a story that just doesn't end like in TDD... so yes please AMFP, focus slightly more on the story.

[Statyk]

I'd have to honestly say FG has a bad spot for endings. All Penumbras and Amnesia felt lacking in all of their endings. Like the whole game was just cut short and abruptly. It was like driving a car full speed into a brick wall and I always felt I was missing something. This is just my opinion though. It might be different for others.

[Potato]

I'd have to honestly say FG has a bad spot for endings. All Penumbras and Amnesia felt lacking in all of their endings. Like the whole game was just cut short and abruptly. It was like driving a car full speed into a brick wall and I always felt I was missing something. This is just my opinion though. It might be different for others.

Yeah, I really do hope AMFP had quite a grand ending. I remember them mentioning they had something interesting planned, I think.

[Draug]

I'd have to honestly say FG has a bad spot for endings. All Penumbras and Amnesia felt lacking in all of their endings. Like the whole game was just cut short and abruptly. It was like driving a car full speed into a brick wall and I always felt I was missing something. This is just my opinion though. It might be different for others.

Yeah, I really do hope AMFP had quite a grand ending. I remember them mentioning they had something interesting planned, I think.

"Dan also promises a great ending “one what will blow your socks off”, (he said it himself in the interview with Smokey) and care about the characters."

[Geoff]

The only disappointing thing about TDD's ending was that we don't really know jack about the other worlds. Other than that, the ending is good. We start the game off being told to kill Alexander...we ended up usually killing Alexander and either dying to the Shadow or we got saved.

[Draug]

droog, I watched Apocalypto and I absolutely loved it. Maybe "love" isn't a suitable word for such a gruesome movie but we are on a horror forum.

It gave me new weird ideas about the plot.

I posted a photo of the trophy room earlier. If it's Oswald's, it tells that he travels around the world to hunt big game. There is an animal missing, which is one of the rarest cats on earth - the black jaguar. According to one website, even today, no one has been able to photograph one in the wild. Surely Oswald would want that kind of a creature to his collection?

I mentioned Lacandon Jungle in Mexico before. Of course present day and year 1899 is a little different, but "Lacandon is still the largest montane rainforest in North America and one of the last ones left large enough to support jaguars" (wikipedia).

Lacandon Jungle also has some other aspects. In addition to tons of Mayan archeological sites, there lives a certain group of people:

"The Lacandon are one of the Maya peoples who live in the jungles of the Mexican state of Chiapas. The Lacandon are one of the most isolated and culturally conservative of Mexico's native peoples. While other Indians were living under the control of the Spanish, the Lacandon lived independently deep in the tropical forest." Only since the last 30-40 years (1970+) they have been starting to be in more contact with outsiders. There have been all kinds of stories about their religious practises. They have also mixed Catholic stuff to Mayan practises.

The jaguar (especially the black one) is super-sacred creature for the Mayans. Perhaps Oswald hunted the wrong creature.

Also. Waaay back in this thread someone linked a pic of a wooden pig idol (before me). That was a Chiapas mask.

Glad that you liked Apocalypto. Also another awesome theory you posted about the purpose of Oswalds trip to mexico (to hunt the panther). However, FG described Oswalds trip as an expedition. I don't think you can describe hunting as an expedition, right? It must be some kind of research or exploration purpose.

Also.. either I am blind or... I can't spot a place for the jaguar in the trophy room picture.

Spoiler below!

[Peci]

Now I must disagree with you droog

Noun 1. hunting expedition - an overland journey by hunters (especially in Africa)
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/hunting+expedition

What do you think of this Mexican black jaguar mask?

[Ghieri]

From Facebook:

First round of review copies have been sent out! The pigs are stirring.

So we'll probably get to know more details about the game pretty soon.