There are also studies that show that loud and repetitive (pulsating) rhythms cause people to become horny. Add in a little alcohol and the presence of vag and there's nightclubs in a nutshell, so it's not like it's a huge mystery. I agree with you anyway. I especially don't understand how people can tolerate extremely boring music if the lyrics are "good" (and have a "message") and if there are no lyrics or lyrics that are mostly nonsense or sonic then they just won't listen to it. I question why they don't just read bad poetry if they don't care about the music at all.
EDIT: Agree with Chrono regarding the catchiness of music. Know what else is catchy? HIV.
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(05-27-2013, 06:35 PM)Bridge Wrote: There are also studies that show that loud and repetitive (pulsating) rhythms cause people to become horny. Add in a little alcohol and the presence of vag and there's nightclubs in a nutshell, so it's not like it's a huge mystery. I agree with you anyway. I especially don't understand how people can tolerate extremely boring music if the lyrics are "good" (and have a "message") and if there are no lyrics or lyrics that are mostly nonsense or sonic then they just won't listen to it. I question why they don't just read bad poetry if they don't care about the music at all.
EDIT: Agree with Chrono regarding the catchiness of music. Know what else is catchy? HIV.
That's incredibly interesting, never knew that. Thanks for sharing Bridge, explains a fair bit.
Actually take what I said with a grain of salt. I'm certain I got it from a reputable source some years ago but surprisingly I'm unable to verify it now. It's not that far-fetched though, seeing as how sex is all about repetitive rhythms.
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(05-27-2013, 05:29 PM)Bridge Wrote: I concur with Chronofox. Not for any elitist reasons, I just don't have patience for that shit. Not all pop is bad, but the pop that actually is good is well composed and not intended only (or at all) to accompany dancing. I just don't see why I should listen to music that gives me a headache and makes me feel completely neutral emotionally when I could be having a life-changing experience. It's not my fault I'm fatally serious about everything.
Hearts to you guys, hearts to you.
Pop usually leaves me slightly amused at best and seriously annoyed at worst... to me, catchy means it's gonna get stuck in my head, which means annoying. Don't see the appeal at all!
(05-27-2013, 06:10 PM)Chronofluff Wrote: Also I never understood why people enjoy catchy beats so much. Studies have been done, I believe, on how pop music can put people into a steady and almost hypnotic mood. I'd rather listen to music that allows me to experience a whole range of emotions, as this creates a more rewarding feeling. The pleasure gained from enjoying and understanding a structurally complex piece of music or a composition with a dynamic mélange of emotions is incomparable.
I sometimes enter a hypnotic mood when listening to my favorite music (yes, with all the goodies we enjoy so much!). Technically, hypnosis and "steady, zombie-like mood" are different things. There's dissociation and detachment - coping mechanisms that can be used to deal with stress. While hypnosis is just immersion. They don't exclude each other, necessarily, they're just different things.
but for some reason you never comment on my or Bridge's music in the music thread. meanie.
(05-27-2013, 06:35 PM)Bridge Wrote: There are also studies that show that loud and repetitive (pulsating) rhythms cause people to become horny. Add in a little alcohol and the presence of vag and there's nightclubs in a nutshell, so it's not like it's a huge mystery.
Here are my thoughts on how this could work:
Many frequenters of night clubs might be insecure. They need to overcome their insecurities by doing something that goes against these insecurities. They achieve this by drugging themselves with rhythms and alcohol, so as to numb themselves to the unpleasant feelings that would accompany the breaking of personal borders. Of course, once sufficiently drugged, overcompensation can take its toll on their future.
That's the first thing. The second thing is that teens have a need for a feeling of belonging to a larger whole. When you and everyone around you are submitting to a single rhythm, this feeling is accomplished.
How's that for a rationalization?
EDIT: wait a minute, this is the random thread? oh shi--
^(;,;)^
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(05-27-2013, 09:31 PM)MyRedNeptune Wrote: Pop usually leaves me slightly amused at best and seriously annoyed at worst... to me, catchy means it's gonna get stuck in my head, which means annoying. Don't see the appeal at all!
Clearly you've not heard The Planets.
All jokes aside I disagree slightly in that catchy is bad because it gets stuck in your head. I have Beethoven playing in my head basically all day and am not annoyed because it isn't annoying music. I sing along to basically everything I listen to, even 12 tone music. But I agree with the general idea you were trying to relate.
The rest of your post is good, but I can do nothing but silently nod in agreement so I won't just reiterate what you said.
EDIT: Not just Beethoven though obviously. I'm on a bit of a LV binge right now and he is consistently among my favorite composers, but the point is I quite often have something playing in the background so to speak.
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Are you fucking kidding me? I happen to have a nostalgia urge towards Dumbo's Pink Elephant Parade, And this happens!!! He evens mentions a pink elephant at 10:35!
People... I think my subconscious is able to see the future.
(Besides it fits perfectly the theme of your conversation!)
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(05-27-2013, 09:31 PM)MyRedNeptune Wrote: Pop usually leaves me slightly amused at best and seriously annoyed at worst... to me, catchy means it's gonna get stuck in my head, which means annoying. Don't see the appeal at all!
Clearly you've not heard The Planets.
I was talking more about the genre of pop music than popular music in general, but who cares; that sounds AWESOME.
Thanks, btw.
(05-27-2013, 09:44 PM)Bridge Wrote: All jokes aside I disagree slightly in that catchy is bad because it gets stuck in your head. I have Beethoven playing in my head basically all day and am not annoyed because it isn't annoying music. I sing along to basically everything I listen to, even 12 tone music. But I agree with the general idea you were trying to relate.
That reminds me... apart from classical I have always had an affinity for genres and songs that would fit right into the category of "catchy, therefore annoying" music. I particularly enjoy electronic genres.
I think you're right. Now that I think about it, it's not the catchiness that matters, but the idea that the music proposes. The fresher the idea seems to you at the time of listening, the more stimulating the music becomes. And the more beaten the idea, the more annoying it becomes. At least, that's how it is for me.
For example, I regularly cycle between Baroque and Romantic music. I used to cycle between orchestral and electronic. I get annoyed if I listen to one piece, one composer, or even one genre for too long. In this respect, I still prefer classical music in general to other genres due to how long-lasting it can be. It's like the "slow food" of music. It takes longer to take in, but lasts longer as a result. Yeah, basically, I consume music like a hungry insatiable beast.