How much violence is OK for a video game?

[Traggey]

I don't believe the ''it forced you to do something'' arguement is valid, you've bought the product, and if you have you should know what you're in for, if you simply do not purchase the game you don't have to kill anyone.

And here's another thing I've been pondering, people claim it is fine for GTA to do these things because of its satirical nature, however watching the trailer to Hatred I hear absolutely nothing but dripping satire, I'm not sure if that was intended by the devs or the result of the bad writing but it just seems like a big goof to me.

[Kreekakon]

I don't believe the ''it forced you to do something'' arguement is valid, you've bought the product, and if you have you should know what you're in for, if you simply do not purchase the game you don't have to kill anyone.

I believe that it is a valid argument for the same reasons that "Don't like it then don't buy it, and/or criticize it" isn't a valid argument.

It is made by observers who do not like the game, and are trying to analyze exactly the nature of why that may be even though they have no intentions of liking the thing in the first place.

And here's another thing I've been pondering, people claim it is fine for GTA to do these things because of its satirical nature, however watching the trailer to Hatred I hear absolutely nothing but dripping satire, I'm not sure if that was intended by the devs or the result of the bad writing but it just seems like a big goof to me.

I think this is as you suspect the result of bad writing. As I said earlier I think the main reason that people are offended is because of the civilians being very personally executed in much less intentionally goofy ways.

[J.R.S.S.]

I don't agree that violence should be shown in any ways. It's the same if there would be a game in which the goal is to fuck children.

It is simply not OK to make such games.

Googolplex, I would advise you to please, create valid arguments before stating what you believe on the forums. As you've seen in this thread and many, many others (I'm always watching), everything you argue is shot down by a good portion of the users in this community and you cannot refute them, which leads to your eventual silence. Just my advice to you.

As stated by many before, this game, "Hatred", is no different then that from any other game with violence (an emphasis on the Grand Theft Auto games). The fact of the matter is, there is no universal moral code or ethical rules for anyone to follow. There are laws. Laws that guide humans in their societies to run in an organized manner (depending of course, but always better then a chaotic free for all Earth). Violence is allowed in media (America thrives on it), nudity and sex is allowed in media, drugs and alcohol is allowed in media, ripping a mans head off and pissing down his neck is allowed in media, and the list goes on.

The SAW films are, in most regards, much more violence and brutal then this Hatred game. Those films are basically torture porn, where people go watch innocent civilians get tortured in the most horrific and disgusting ways possible. I see no argument against these films, not to mention they all made millions in the box office. And the argument you keep making with the child pornography can be refuted so easily that it hurts your case. In most countries in the world, child pornography is completely illegal in any media manner. Whether that be in films, video games, magazines/books, etc. So please, do not compare child pornography to this game.

If anyone, including you Googolplex, does not agree with this game, if it goes against the imaginary moral code that every human being creates for themselves, then that is their choice. Do not buy the game. It is just interesting to see the moral dilemma that this game is making people face when those same people would have no problem if this was the killing of civilians and police/soldiers in, let's say, Iraq, Africa, Russia, and the list goes on.

[Nice]

violence is bad, mkay?

[Traggey]

Real life violence is bad, video game voilence can be very entertaining.

[Nice]

Real life violence is bad, video game voilence can be very entertaining.

NO I SAID IT'S BAD, OKAY??

[Traggey]

YOU'RE BAD! BAD DOG! BAAAAAAAD DOG!

[Deep One]

aayyy

[RedKnight]

No shit