The ambient piano song

**dvow** · 09-25-2010, 10:06 AM

(09-25-2010, 03:53 AM)Lee Wrote:
(09-25-2010, 02:12 AM)dvow Wrote: BTW a song is a piece of music with lyrics. So what you heard aren't songs.

Never heard that law. What do you call when there aren't lyrics?

It's not a law. It's just been that way for hundreds of years. It's just songs have gotten so popular in the modern age, that people are starting to call everything songs, which infuriates people that know better. It's like calling a car a truck. What if the opera became popular instead of the song? Do you think it would suddenly be correct to call everything with music an opera? And it would be called instrumental, depending on the work, and the composer's intentions.

**Frontcannon** · 09-26-2010, 02:15 AM

You could alaways use Track / Tune Big Grin

**Sexbad** · 09-26-2010, 03:15 AM

I use the ambiguous Esperanto word "kanto" often.

Nah I just call it a song.

**Hotels** · 09-26-2010, 05:37 AM

(09-26-2010, 02:15 AM)Frontcannon Wrote: You could alaways use Track / Tune

http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=ch...ack+/+tune

?????

**Sexbad** · 09-26-2010, 05:51 AM

He was talking about using "Track" or "Tune" as an ambiguous term for a piece of music. We aren't actually helping you. That would be responsible.

**311alien** · 09-26-2010, 06:32 AM

(09-25-2010, 10:06 AM)dvow Wrote:
(09-25-2010, 03:53 AM)Lee Wrote:
(09-25-2010, 02:12 AM)dvow Wrote: BTW a song is a piece of music with lyrics. So what you heard aren't songs.

Never heard that law. What do you call when there aren't lyrics?

It's not a law. It's just been that way for hundreds of years. It's just songs have gotten so popular in the modern age, that people are starting to call everything songs, which infuriates people that know better. It's like calling a car a truck. What if the opera became popular instead of the song? Do you think it would suddenly be correct to call everything with music an opera? And it would be called instrumental, depending on the work, and the composer's intentions.

I am actually a musician and I know what you are getting at. The same thing gets me when I hear people call "espresso" - "expresso".

**Hotels** · 09-27-2010, 02:57 AM

(09-26-2010, 05:51 AM)Lee Wrote: He was talking about using "Track" or "Tune" as an ambiguous term for a piece of music. We aren't actually helping you. That would be responsible.

Damn, I thought there was some sort of magical way to track the tune.

**IAmSir** · 09-27-2010, 12:53 PM

(09-26-2010, 06:32 AM)311alien Wrote:
(09-25-2010, 10:06 AM)dvow Wrote:
(09-25-2010, 03:53 AM)Lee Wrote:
(09-25-2010, 02:12 AM)dvow Wrote: BTW a song is a piece of music with lyrics. So what you heard aren't songs.

Never heard that law. What do you call when there aren't lyrics?

It's not a law. It's just been that way for hundreds of years. It's just songs have gotten so popular in the modern age, that people are starting to call everything songs, which infuriates people that know better. It's like calling a car a truck. What if the opera became popular instead of the song? Do you think it would suddenly be correct to call everything with music an opera? And it would be called instrumental, depending on the work, and the composer's intentions.

I am actually a musician and I know what you are getting at. The same thing gets me when I hear people call "espresso" - "expresso".

Is that when you're developing music on an Apple Macbook in a Starbucks?
Tongue

**311alien** · 09-28-2010, 06:29 PM

(09-27-2010, 12:53 PM)IAmSir Wrote:
(09-26-2010, 06:32 AM)311alien Wrote:
(09-25-2010, 10:06 AM)dvow Wrote:
(09-25-2010, 03:53 AM)Lee Wrote:
(09-25-2010, 02:12 AM)dvow Wrote: BTW a song is a piece of music with lyrics. So what you heard aren't songs.

Never heard that law. What do you call when there aren't lyrics?

It's not a law. It's just been that way for hundreds of years. It's just songs have gotten so popular in the modern age, that people are starting to call everything songs, which infuriates people that know better. It's like calling a car a truck. What if the opera became popular instead of the song? Do you think it would suddenly be correct to call everything with music an opera? And it would be called instrumental, depending on the work, and the composer's intentions.

I am actually a musician and I know what you are getting at. The same thing gets me when I hear people call "espresso" - "expresso".

Is that when you're developing music on an Apple Macbook in a Starbucks?

haha, good one. I only go to star bucks for an iced coffee...If that. I'm a Pret guy lol. (I'm in NYC btw lol)

**dvow** · 09-28-2010, 11:12 PM

I finally got around to finding the source of one of three piano fragments. One example breaks apart and fragments so much, I am not sure if I can find the original piece. One fragment didn't take very long to find though. It's from the 2nd movement of Beethoven's Les adieux sonata.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BJGWhSgld4w Between 1:45 and 2:05 of where the fragment is from. It doesn't sound exactly the same, since whoever played the fragment in the game played the bass very lightly, and used an incredible amount of pedal for the first half, which obscures a lot. He likely did this to make it sound more distant and mysterious.

For proof, go into Amnesia the dark descent\sounds\general, and select general_piano03.ogg. If you can't play it, get a player that can play .ogg files, like foobar2000. There are also two other fragments. The first is some Baroque piece played on a harpsichord that I have zero idea of the source, and the second I am just lost on, but it does sound familiar somehow.

I am nearly 100% sure that all three fragments are taken from larger works by composers popular during and before the period in which the game is based. The one that's all messed up, and ends in a random chord, likely sounds MUCH better in its original form; that's why it's bugging me.