Graphics support

**cameronhills** · 10-30-2007, 03:39 PM

Hi there,

I have attached a grab and an hpl.log archive as requested.

When I first ran Penumbra it looked great, but a little jerky. All the textures and lights looked excellent. I was able to play until the snow hatch, where the door symbol was very difficult to get, at which point I died.

Then I followed instructions and updated to the latest ATI retail driver for my Radeon 9000Mac card, and suddenly all the graphics look s**t. The textures are all gone, the objects are in bits, and flashing, it's impossible to play. I attach a grab of the cabin as an example. I just tried attaching a sytem profile but the forum page wont let me, so heres a little detail. Graphite G4/400 with Giga Design upgraded processor at 1.4Ghz. OSX 10.4.10, 1.38GB SDRAM, ATI Radeon 9000Mac Graphics.

I am unable to get my system back to where it was before, any suggestions? I'd love to play the game...

Cameron.[attachment=369][attachment=370]

**WindexGlow** · 10-30-2007, 09:27 PM

Do other games have this problem? I think there's failsafe against this, but you might have installed the wrong drivers.

Btw, copy/paste the contents of the hpl log next time, it makes it much easier to read ;-)

UKNOWN
Could not find a working profile for cg file ''!
CG ERROR : The profile is not supported

I haven't seen that one before :o
HPL log

Spoiler below!

**zzaz3** · 10-31-2007, 02:38 AM

My friend had a problem like that, but we never discovered the problem. I would load the cabin and you could see the object clearly and everything clearly, but in about 2 seconds it froze. I guess its not so simmilar after all...

**Urkle** · 10-31-2007, 06:21 AM

Try reverting back to the stock OS X ATI Drivers and use the 1560 release I just put on the tracker. I fixed the *crash* that you encountered when getting to the hatch. And fixed the last of what I can find of lighting issues on ATI and Nvidia cards..

It looks like whatever video card drivers you installed don't seem to support Fragment programs, only vertext programs, thus everything looks *crappy* and no textures. dropping the shader quality to LOW will get around this.

**cameronhills** · 11-08-2007, 05:45 PM

Urkle Wrote:Try reverting back to the stock OS X ATI Drivers and use the 1560 release I just put on the tracker. I fixed the *crash* that you encountered when getting to the hatch. And fixed the last of what I can find of lighting issues on ATI and Nvidia cards..

It looks like whatever video card drivers you installed don't seem to support Fragment programs, only vertext programs, thus everything looks *crappy* and no textures. dropping the shader quality to LOW will get around this.

Thanks, WindexGlow and Urkle, for your replies.

I have re-istalled OS X Tiger 10.4.10 from disc. The ATI drivers are now a standard part of the Tiger install. This has not made any difference to the graphics in Penumbra.

To answer the earlier question, yes, other games like RtCWofenstein play fine.

The confusing thing is that Penumbra played fine until I went to the ATI website and downloaded the "latest drivers", which is actually the ATI Utilities Control Panel, which I dont need!

Any guidance gratefully received...

Cameron

**cameronhills** · 11-09-2007, 11:53 PM

cameronhills Wrote:
Urkle Wrote:Try reverting back to the stock OS X ATI Drivers and use the 1560 release I just put on the tracker. I fixed the *crash* that you encountered when getting to the hatch. And fixed the last of what I can find of lighting issues on ATI and Nvidia cards..

It looks like whatever video card drivers you installed don't seem to support Fragment programs, only vertext programs, thus everything looks *crappy* and no textures. dropping the shader quality to LOW will get around this.

Thanks, WindexGlow and Urkle, for your replies.

I have re-istalled OS X Tiger 10.4.10 from disc. The ATI drivers are now a standard part of the Tiger install. This has not made any difference to the graphics in Penumbra.

To answer the earlier question, yes, other games like RtCWofenstein play fine.

The confusing thing is that Penumbra played fine until I went to the ATI website and downloaded the "latest drivers", which is actually the ATI Utilities Control Panel, which I dont need!

Any guidance gratefully received...

Cameron

Yes! 1560 and the patch makes it work. A few jaggy flashes, light at the bottom of the drop from the hatch for instance, but I can now get to the end of this great Demo.

Here is the log:

-------- THE HPL ENGINE LOG ------------

Creating Engine Modules
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Creating graphics module
Creating system module
Creating resource module
Creating input module
Creating sound module
Creating physics module
Creating ai module
Creating scene module
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Initializing Resources Module
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Creating resource managers
Misc Creation
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Initializing Graphics Module
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Init low level graphics
Setting video mode: 800 x 600 - 32 bpp
Init Glee...OK
Setting up OpenGL
Max texture image units: 6
Max texture coord units: 6
Two sided stencil: 0
Vertex Buffer Object: 1
Anisotropic filtering: 1
Max Anisotropic degree: 16
Multisampling: 1
Vertex Program: 1
Fragment Program: 0
NV Register Combiners: 0
NV Register Combiners Stages: 0
ATI Fragment Shader: 0
Creating graphic systems
Creating Renderer2D
Renderer2D created
Creating Renderer3D
Load Renderer3D gpu programs:
Extrude
'ShadowExtrude_vp.cg' using profile: 'arbvp1'
Diffuse
'Diffuse_Color_vp.cg' using profile: 'arbvp1'
Fog
'Fog_Solid_vp.cg' using profile: 'arbvp1'
Creating fog textures: Solid Additive Alpha
init sky box
Renderer3D created
Creating screen buffers size 800.000000 : 600.000000
Creating programs
'PostEffect_Blur_vp.cg' using profile: 'arbvp1'
'PostEffect_Blur_Rect_fp.cg' using profile: UKNOWN
Could not find a working profile for cg file ''!
CG ERROR : The profile is not supported.
ERROR: Couldn't create program 'PostEffect_Blur_Rect_fp.cg'
'PostEffect_Blur_2D_fp.cg' using profile: UKNOWN
Could not find a working profile for cg file ''!
CG ERROR : The profile is not supported.
ERROR: Couldn't create program 'PostEffect_Blur_2D_fp.cg'
'PostEffect_Bloom_vp.cg' using profile: 'arbvp1'
'PostEffect_Bloom_fp.cg' using profile: UKNOWN
Could not find a working profile for cg file ''!
CG ERROR : The profile is not supported.
ERROR: Couldn't create program 'PostEffect_Bloom_fp.cg'
ERROR: Couldn't load 'PostEffect_Bloom_fp.cg'!
'PostEffect_Motion_vp.cg' using profile: 'arbvp1'
'PostEffect_Motion_fp.cg' using profile: UKNOWN
Could not find a working profile for cg file ''!
CG ERROR : The profile is not supported.
ERROR: Couldn't create program 'PostEffect_Motion_fp.cg'
Dynamic loops in motion blur fp not supported, loading static instead.
'PostEffect_Motion_staticloop_fp.cg' using profile: UKNOWN
Could not find a working profile for cg file ''!
CG ERROR : The profile is not supported.
ERROR: Couldn't create program 'PostEffect_Motion_staticloop_fp.cg'
ERROR: Couldn't load 'PostEffect_Motion_fp.cg'!
'PostEffect_DoF_vp.cg' using profile: 'arbvp1'
'PostEffect_DoF_fp.cg' using profile: UKNOWN
Could not find a working profile for cg file ''!
CG ERROR : The profile is not supported.
ERROR: Couldn't create program 'PostEffect_DoF_fp.cg'
ERROR: Couldn't load 'PostEffect_DoF_fp.cg'!
RendererPostEffects created
Adding engine materials
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Initializing Sound Module
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Initializing OpenAL.
Trying to open audio device... Success!
Device name:
OpenAL Version Supported: 1.1
Number of channels: 32
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Initializing Game Module
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Adding engine updates
Initializing script functions
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User Initialization
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Initializing Penumbra: Overture Episode 1
Version $Rev: 1560 $
Date $Date: 2007-10-31 00:36:18 -0400 (Wed, 31 Oct 2007) $
Checking Supported Profiles
Profile CG_PROFILE_ARBVP1 is supported
Trying to load vertex program!
'Test' using profile: 'arbvp1'
Success!
'Fallback01_Diffuse_Light_p1_vp.cg' using profile: 'arbvp1'
'Fallback01_Diffuse_Light_p2_vp.cg' using profile: 'arbvp1'
'Fallback01_Diffuse_Light_Spot_p2_vp.cg' using profile: 'arbvp1'
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Game Running
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Loading collada for 'data/level01_01_outside.dae' took: 476 ms
'Fog_Trans_vp.cg' using profile: 'arbvp1'
Start Num Of: 62
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WARNING: Could not find language file category ''
Loading collada for 'data/level01_02_mine_entrance.dae' took: 1189 ms
ERROR: Couldn't find particle system file 'particle_dust.ps'
ERROR: Couldn't create particle system 'sust01' of type 'particle_dust'
ERROR: Couldn't find particle system file 'dust_sust01.ps'
ERROR: Couldn't create particle system 'particle' of type 'dust_sust01'
ERROR: Couldn't load particle system 'particle' with type 'dust_sust01'
Start Num Of: 128
End Num Of: 120
Start Num Of: 10
Loading map 'level01_02_mine_entrance.dae' took: 5973 ms
Creating saved world level01_02_mine_entrance
WARNING: Could not find language file category ''
WARNING: Could not find language file category ''
WARNING: Could not find language file category ''
Loading collada for 'data/level01_03_shafts.dae' took: 2751 ms
WARNING: Texture 'blinn7-fx' was not found!
WARNING: Texture 'blinn7-fx' was not found!
WARNING: Texture 'blinn7-fx' was not found!
WARNING: Texture 'blinn7-fx' was not found!
WARNING: Texture 'blinn7-fx' was not found!
WARNING: Texture 'blinn7-fx' was not found!
WARNING: Texture 'blinn7-fx' was not found!
WARNING: Texture 'blinn7-fx' was not found!
WARNING: Texture 'blinn7-fx' was not found!
WARNING: Texture 'blinn7-fx' was not found!
WARNING: Texture 'blinn7-fx' was not found!
WARNING: Texture 'blinn7-fx' was not found!
WARNING: Texture 'blinn7-fx' was not found!
WARNING: Texture 'blinn7-fx' was not found!
WARNING: Texture 'blinn7-fx' was not found!
WARNING: Texture 'blinn7-fx' was not found!
WARNING: Texture 'blinn7-fx' was not found!
WARNING: Texture 'blinn7-fx' was not found!
WARNING: Geometry for joint child '' is missing! Might be connected to bone.
WARNING: Geometry joint parten '' is missing! Might be connected to bone.
WARNING: Geometry for joint child '' is missing! Might be connected to bone.
WARNING: Geometry joint parten '' is missing! Might be connected to bone.
WARNING: Geometry for joint child '' is missing! Might be connected to bone.
WARNING: Geometry joint parten '' is missing! Might be connected to bone.
WARNING: Geometry for joint child '' is missing! Might be connected to bone.
WARNING: Geometry joint parten '' is missing! Might be connected to bone.
WARNING: Geometry for joint child '' is missing! Might be connected to bone.
WARNING: Geometry joint parten '' is missing! Might be connected to bone.
WARNING: Geometry for joint child '' is missing! Might be connected to bone.
WARNING: Geometry joint parten '' is missing! Might be connected to bone.
WARNING: Geometry for joint child '' is missing! Might be connected to bone.
WARNING: Geometry joint parten '' is missing! Might be connected to bone.
WARNING: Geometry for joint child '' is missing! Might be connected to bone.
WARNING: Geometry joint parten '' is missing! Might be connected to bone.
WARNING: Geometry for joint child '' is missing! Might be connected to bone.
WARNING: Geometry joint parten '' is missing! Might be connected to bone.
WARNING: Geometry for joint child '' is missing! Might be connected to bone.
WARNING: Geometry joint parten '' is missing! Might be connected to bone.
WARNING: Geometry for joint child '' is missing! Might be connected to bone.
WARNING: Geometry joint parten '' is missing! Might be connected to bone.
WARNING: Geometry for joint child '' is missing! Might be connected to bone.
WARNING: Geometry joint parten '' is missing! Might be connected to bone.
WARNING: Geometry for joint child '' is missing! Might be connected to bone.
WARNING: Geometry joint parten '' is missing! Might be connected to bone.
Start Num Of: 197
End Num Of: 120
Start Num Of: 17
End Num Of: 12
Clearing all previously saved maps...
ERROR: Couldn't find game entity 'exitarea'
WARNING: Couldn't find area entity 'exitarea'
ERROR: Couldn't find game entity 'link03disabled'
WARNING: Couldn't find area entity 'link03disabled'
ERROR: Couldn't find game entity 'triggerdog'
WARNING: Couldn't find game entity 'triggerdog'
ERROR: Couldn't find game entity 'plamp1'
WARNING: Couldn't find lamp 'plamp1'
ERROR: Couldn't find game entity 'plamp2'
WARNING: Couldn't find lamp 'plamp2'
ERROR: Couldn't find game entity 'plamp1'
WARNING: Couldn't find game entity 'plamp1'
ERROR: Couldn't find game entity 'plamp2'
WARNING: Couldn't find game entity 'plamp2'
ERROR: Couldn't find game entity 'plamp4'
WARNING: Couldn't find game entity 'plamp4'
ERROR: Couldn't find game entity 'plamp5'
WARNING: Couldn't find game entity 'plamp5'
ERROR: Couldn't find game entity 'plamp6'
WARNING: Couldn't find game entity 'plamp6'
ERROR: Couldn't find game entity 'plamp8'
WARNING: Couldn't find game entity 'plamp8'
ERROR: Couldn't find game entity 'cave1'
WARNING: Couldn't find game entity 'cave1'
ERROR: Couldn't find game entity 'descbox2'
WARNING: Couldn't find game entity 'descbox2'
ERROR: Couldn't find game entity 'descwheels1'
WARNING: Couldn't find game entity 'descwheels1'
ERROR: Couldn't find game entity 'descwheels2'
WARNING: Couldn't find game entity 'descwheels2'
ERROR: Couldn't find game entity 'descpile1'
WARNING: Couldn't find game entity 'descpile1'
ERROR: Couldn't find game entity 'descpile2'
WARNING: Couldn't find game entity 'descpile2'
ERROR: Couldn't find game entity 'descmachine'
WARNING: Couldn't find game entity 'descmachine'
ERROR: Couldn't find game entity 'descstuff'
WARNING: Couldn't find game entity 'descstuff'
ERROR: Couldn't find game entity 'rock9'
WARNING: Couldn't find game entity 'rock9'
ERROR: Couldn't find game entity 'rock10'
WARNING: Couldn't find game entity 'rock10'
ERROR: Couldn't find game entity 'rock11'
WARNING: Couldn't find game entity 'rock11'
ERROR: Couldn't find game entity 'rock15'
WARNING: Couldn't find game entity 'rock15'
ERROR: Couldn't find game entity 'rock18'
WARNING: Couldn't find game entity 'rock18'
ERROR: Couldn't find game entity 'rock19'
WARNING: Couldn't find game entity 'rock19'
ERROR: Couldn't find game entity 'canister5'
WARNING: Couldn't find game entity 'canister5'
ERROR: Couldn't find game entity 'link03panel'
WARNING: Couldn't find game entity 'link03panel'
Loading map 'level01_03_shafts.dae' took: 12609 ms
ERROR: Couldn't stream sound 'door_metal_close'
WARNING: Can't find sound 'door_metal_close' (may also be due too many sounds playing).
Loading collada for 'data/level01_02_mine_entrance.dae' took: 952 ms
ERROR: Couldn't find particle system file 'particle_dust.ps'
ERROR: Couldn't create particle system 'sust01' of type 'particle_dust'
ERROR: Couldn't find particle system file 'dust_sust01.ps'
ERROR: Couldn't create particle system 'particle' of type 'dust_sust01'
ERROR: Couldn't load particle system 'particle' with type 'dust_sust01'
Start Num Of: 156
End Num Of: 120
Start Num Of: 13
End Num Of: 12
Loading collada for 'data/level01_03_shafts.dae' took: 2501 ms
WARNING: Texture 'blinn7-fx' was not found!
WARNING: Texture 'blinn7-fx' was not found!
WARNING: Texture 'blinn7-fx' was not found!
WARNING: Texture 'blinn7-fx' was not found!
WARNING: Texture 'blinn7-fx' was not found!
WARNING: Texture 'blinn7-fx' was not found!
WARNING: Texture 'blinn7-fx' was not found!
WARNING: Texture 'blinn7-fx' was not found!
WARNING: Texture 'blinn7-fx' was not found!
WARNING: Texture 'blinn7-fx' was not found!
WARNING: Texture 'blinn7-fx' was not found!
WARNING: Texture 'blinn7-fx' was not found!
WARNING: Texture 'blinn7-fx' was not found!
WARNING: Texture 'blinn7-fx' was not found!
WARNING: Texture 'blinn7-fx' was not found!
WARNING: Texture 'blinn7-fx' was not found!
WARNING: Texture 'blinn7-fx' was not found!
WARNING: Texture 'blinn7-fx' was not found!
WARNING: Geometry for joint child '' is missing! Might be connected to bone.
WARNING: Geometry joint parten '' is missing! Might be connected to bone.
WARNING: Geometry for joint child '' is missing! Might be connected to bone.
WARNING: Geometry joint parten '' is missing! Might be connected to bone.
WARNING: Geometry for joint child '' is missing! Might be connected to bone.
WARNING: Geometry joint parten '' is missing! Might be connected to bone.
WARNING: Geometry for joint child '' is missing! Might be connected to bone.
WARNING: Geometry joint parten '' is missing! Might be connected to bone.
WARNING: Geometry for joint child '' is missing! Might be connected to bone.
WARNING: Geometry joint parten '' is missing! Might be connected to bone.
WARNING: Geometry for joint child '' is missing! Might be connected to bone.
WARNING: Geometry joint parten '' is missing! Might be connected to bone.
WARNING: Geometry for joint child '' is missing! Might be connected to bone.
WARNING: Geometry joint parten '' is missing! Might be connected to bone.
WARNING: Geometry for joint child '' is missing! Might be connected to bone.
WARNING: Geometry joint parten '' is missing! Might be connected to bone.
WARNING: Geometry for joint child '' is missing! Might be connected to bone.
WARNING: Geometry joint parten '' is missing! Might be connected to bone.
WARNING: Geometry for joint child '' is missing! Might be connected to bone.
WARNING: Geometry joint parten '' is missing! Might be connected to bone.
WARNING: Geometry for joint child '' is missing! Might be connected to bone.
WARNING: Geometry joint parten '' is missing! Might be connected to bone.
WARNING: Geometry for joint child '' is missing! Might be connected to bone.
WARNING: Geometry joint parten '' is missing! Might be connected to bone.
WARNING: Geometry for joint child '' is missing! Might be connected to bone.
WARNING: Geometry joint parten '' is missing! Might be connected to bone.
Start Num Of: 133
End Num Of: 120
Start Num Of: 12
Clearing all previously saved maps...
ERROR: Couldn't find game entity 'exitarea'
WARNING: Couldn't find area entity 'exitarea'
ERROR: Couldn't find game entity 'link03disabled'
WARNING: Couldn't find area entity 'link03disabled'
ERROR: Couldn't find game entity 'triggerdog'
WARNING: Couldn't find game entity 'triggerdog'
ERROR: Couldn't find game entity 'plamp1'
WARNING: Couldn't find lamp 'plamp1'
ERROR: Couldn't find game entity 'plamp2'
WARNING: Couldn't find lamp 'plamp2'
ERROR: Couldn't find game entity 'plamp1'
WARNING: Couldn't find game entity 'plamp1'
ERROR: Couldn't find game entity 'plamp2'
WARNING: Couldn't find game entity 'plamp2'
ERROR: Couldn't find game entity 'plamp4'
WARNING: Couldn't find game entity 'plamp4'
ERROR: Couldn't find game entity 'plamp5'
WARNING: Couldn't find game entity 'plamp5'
ERROR: Couldn't find game entity 'plamp6'
WARNING: Couldn't find game entity 'plamp6'
ERROR: Couldn't find game entity 'plamp8'
WARNING: Couldn't find game entity 'plamp8'
ERROR: Couldn't find game entity 'cave1'
WARNING: Couldn't find game entity 'cave1'
ERROR: Couldn't find game entity 'descbox2'
WARNING: Couldn't find game entity 'descbox2'
ERROR: Couldn't find game entity 'descwheels1'
WARNING: Couldn't find game entity 'descwheels1'
ERROR: Couldn't find game entity 'descwheels2'
WARNING: Couldn't find game entity 'descwheels2'
ERROR: Couldn't find game entity 'descpile1'
WARNING: Couldn't find game entity 'descpile1'
ERROR: Couldn't find game entity 'descpile2'
WARNING: Couldn't find game entity 'descpile2'
ERROR: Couldn't find game entity 'descmachine'
WARNING: Couldn't find game entity 'descmachine'
ERROR: Couldn't find game entity 'descstuff'
WARNING: Couldn't find game entity 'descstuff'
ERROR: Couldn't find game entity 'rock9'
WARNING: Couldn't find game entity 'rock9'
ERROR: Couldn't find game entity 'rock10'
WARNING: Couldn't find game entity 'rock10'
ERROR: Couldn't find game entity 'rock11'
WARNING: Couldn't find game entity 'rock11'
ERROR: Couldn't find game entity 'rock15'
WARNING: Couldn't find game entity 'rock15'
ERROR: Couldn't find game entity 'rock18'
WARNING: Couldn't find game entity 'rock18'
ERROR: Couldn't find game entity 'rock19'
WARNING: Couldn't find game entity 'rock19'
ERROR: Couldn't find game entity 'canister5'
WARNING: Couldn't find game entity 'canister5'
ERROR: Couldn't find game entity 'link03panel'
WARNING: Couldn't find game entity 'link03panel'
Loading map 'level01_03_shafts.dae' took: 10290 ms
ERROR: Couldn't stream sound 'door_metal_close'
WARNING: Can't find sound 'door_metal_close' (may also be due too many sounds playing).
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Statistics
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Medium framerate: 24.951312
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User Exit
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Saving to config
Saving keys
Saving to config
Saving keys
Exit Player
Exit Button Handler
Exit Map Handler
Exit Game Message Handler
Exit Radio Handler
Exit Inventory
Exit Fade Handler
Exit Save Handler
Exit Trigger Handler
Exit Attack Handler
Exit Notebook
Exit Numerical panel
Exit Intro story
Exit Death menu
Exit Graphics helper
Exit Main menu
Exit Player hands
Exit Music handler
Exit Map Load Text
Exit PreMenu
Exit Credits
Exit Demo end text
Saving config
Exit Effect Handler
Exit Game
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Exiting Scene Module
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Exiting Input Module
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Exiting Sound Module
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Exiting Graphics Module
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Exiting Resources Module
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Done with tilesets
Done with fonts
Done with scripts
Done with particles
Done with sounds
Done with meshes
Done with materials
Done with Gpu programs
Done with images
Destroyed all textures
Done with sound entities
Done with animations
All resources deleted
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Exiting Physics Module
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Exiting System Module
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- Deleting lowlevel stuff.
Physics
Sound
Input
Resources
System
Graphics
HPL Exit was successful!
Saving last config
Deleting ATI shader to 0
Deleting ATI shader to 0
Deleting ATI shader to 0
Deleting ATI shader to 0

**Dmaster** · 01-11-2008, 06:17 PM

Hello i Downloade the Demo an i have a Big Graphic Problem see The Screenshot
The Texture, on The Wall Flicker an Jums Left an Right. i have a 20" Alu iMac with the Ati RadeonHD2600

**Urkle** · 01-11-2008, 10:00 PM

Dmaster Wrote:Hello i Downloade the Demo an i have a Big Graphic Problem see The Screenshot
The Texture, on The Wall Flicker an Jums Left an Right. i have a 20" Alu iMac with the Ati RadeonHD2600

Yup, known issue.. Any further feedback and screenshots please post to this thread

**cameronhills** · 01-27-2008, 08:01 PM

I just got a used ATI 9800 Pro Mac card and now the demo works perfectly, so good I just bought the full episode 1.

Good luck with the next Ep...

Cameron