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RE: Computer shuts down after some minutes

Check your cpu voltage when playing amnesia and when playing those games. Low Cpu voltages with your cpu can perfectly run amnesia in a near to idle state depending on how much FSB your cpu has. If you notice that your voltage is lower on Amnesia you have your enigma solved. Either way I advise you to solve your problem and not to trust that Amnesia proves overheating is not the problem. Make a stress test with everest or other similar program. Check the temperature behavior and see if your computer shuts down.

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05-30-2013, 08:27 PM
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RE: Computer shuts down after some minutes

It's at stock (no overclock) so it doesn't matter what voltage is applied at any given time. But I do agree that it doesn't matter if it runs Amnesia "fine" (fine being around 95°C I guess since 100°C must be the TJMax). This problem might appear everywhere unless solved. If you say the fan is working then the cooler (heatsink) is not sited properly or your case is completely closed with no fans.
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RE: Computer shuts down after some minutes

I know that Amnesia or other games doesn't cause overheating problems! The problem is in my hardware. But it's different from game to game. I don't want that I can't play AAMFP when it's out. But when it's using the same engine threading or what ever like TDD, then it will working fine. But when the devs add some Dear Esther features to engine, it probably could kill my PC.

As I said, the fan and cooler are mounted correctly. Perhaps the cooler is to weak for my CPU, but I never had the problems all the years before. And I think, even the intel standard cooler should be enough when CPU is fully utilized.
05-30-2013, 08:47 PM
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RE: Computer shuts down after some minutes

Try to clean dust out of your PC. Use canned air

EDIT: Or format your PC completely.
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RE: Computer shuts down after some minutes

Of course it depends from game to game and from program to program. In theory, your computer can shut down even if you watch a 1080p youtube video. Unless there is gpu hardware acceleration, cpu resources will be used raising the temperature above 100°C and then shuting down to prevent damage. Also it is true that as heat rises your cpu will be slower.

And yes, cleaning out dust is the first thing to do but I think you said you did that. In case your aftermarket cooler is indeed very weak, try the stock intel one. That change will also force you to change the thermal compound and resit the heatsink which I believe will fix the overheating problems.

(05-30-2013, 08:48 PM)Deep One Wrote: EDIT: Or format your PC completely.

It's a hardware problem. That would be a waste of time. It won't solve the issue.
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RE: Computer shuts down after some minutes

I already cleaned my PC, there is no dust.
To format the hard drive surely isn't the issue.

I don't have the intel stock cooler. And I do not want to buy a new cooler when I don't know if that would fix the problem.

Even when I underclock my CPU to 2.17 GHz instead of 2,83, it will be too hot.
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RE: Computer shuts down after some minutes

(05-30-2013, 08:52 PM)Googolplex Wrote: To format the hard drive surely isn't the issue.

That's correct, also check my reply above.

EDIT: The reason it shuts down now is because now the weather is warmer (unless you live in the north pole or something) and the cpu is getting even hotter. During the winter, even under gaming, maybe you were getting away with 85°C which is not normal but still...operational.

EDIT 2: Alright fine, don't buy any cooler or something. You could remove the cooler all the way, clean the cpu and heatsink from old thermal paste, apply new one, connect the fan and try again. That's my recommendation. Otherwise, I suggest you take it to a "professional" who will do the same steps.
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RE: Computer shuts down after some minutes

you don't need to overclock for the cpu to move from voltage to another. For instance, I had no problems when on 1.1 but when it moved to 1.4 it instantly increased temp.

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(05-30-2013, 09:04 PM)nemesis567 Wrote: you don't need to overclock for the cpu to move from voltage to another. For instance, I had no problems when on 1.1 but when it moved to 1.4 it instantly increased temp.

I know that. But, when at stock (no overclock) it shouldn't matter what voltage it applies and when. It's all safe. And, as cpu voltage is concerned, 1.1 - 1.4 is a significant jump.
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RE: Computer shuts down after some minutes

(05-30-2013, 08:54 PM)plutomaniac Wrote: EDIT: The reason it shuts down now is because now the weather is warmer (unless you live in the north pole or something) and the cpu is getting even hotter. During the winter, even under gaming, maybe you were getting away with 85°C which is not normal but still...operational.

I live in germany, we have almost summer, but just 16°C or sth. it's not the weather;-)

(05-30-2013, 08:54 PM)plutomaniac Wrote: EDIT 2: Alright fine, don't buy any cooler or something. You could remove the cooler all the way, clean the cpu and heatsink from old thermal paste, apply new one, connect the fan and try again. That's my recommendation. Otherwise, I suggest you take it to a "professional" who will do the same steps.

That's what I already did before, but games still kill my PC.
But I didn't bring it to a prefessional.

(05-30-2013, 09:04 PM)nemesis567 Wrote: you don't need to overclock for the cpu to move from voltage to another. For instance, I had no problems when on 1.1 but when it moved to 1.4 it instantly increased temp.

My bios doesn't allow voltage options. Just stock voltage and "ignore".
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